Sunday, December 18, 2016

Thanks, Obama. =UPDATED=

This developer must have been overjoyed when Trump was elected President

Surveying the media over the last few weeks, I can confidently say that Donald Trump is a magician. All he had to do was say Taiwan accio! and suddenly everyone in the media became a Taiwan expert...

UPDATE: Why did Taiwanese get upset in response to the use of the word autonomy? Because in PRC lexicons it is part of the one country, two systems program for annexation and occupation of Taiwan. Note that the speaker is talking in response to Obama.
China’s “one country, two systems” model is to a large degree about Taiwan remaining autonomous, a Chinese academic said on Saturday.

...Speaking of people at the presidential level talking wrongly about Taiwan, lots of Taiwanese were shocked to hear Obama replicate Beijing's expansionist language as he "explained" China using the "poor, put upon China" motif and as a special bonus, used the term "autonomy" as if Taiwan were (already) part of the PRC. Obama's remarks were in response to a question:


Q Your successor spoke by phone with the President of Taiwan the other day and declared subsequently that he wasn’t sure why the United States needed to be bound by the one-China policy. He suggested it could be used as a bargaining chip perhaps to get better terms on a trade deal or more cooperation on North Korea. There’s already evidence that tensions between the two sides have increased a bit, and just today, the Chinese have evidently seized an underwater drone in the South China Sea. Do you agree, as some do, that our China policy could use a fresh set of eyes? And what’s the big deal about having a short phone call with the President of Taiwan? Or do you worry that these types of unorthodox approaches are setting us on a collision course with perhaps our biggest geopolitical adversary?

THE PRESIDENT: That’s a great question. I’m somewhere in between. I think all of our foreign policy should be subject to fresh eyes. I think one of the -- I’ve said this before -- I am very proud of the work I’ve done. I think I’m a better President now than when I started. But if you’re here for eight years, in the bubble, you start seeing things a certain way and you benefit from -- the democracy benefits, America benefits from some new perspectives.

And I think it should be not just the prerogative but the obligation of a new President to examine everything that’s been done and see what makes sense and what doesn’t. That’s what I did when I came in, and I’m assuming any new President is going to undertake those same exercises.

And given the importance of the relationship between the United States and China, given how much is at stake in terms of the world economy, national security, our presence in the Asia Pacific, China’s increasing role in international affairs -- there’s probably no bilateral relationship that carries more significance and where there’s also the potential if that relationship breaks down or goes into a full-conflict mode, that everybody is worse off. So I think it’s fine for him to take a look at it.

What I’ve advised the President-elect is that across the board on foreign policy, you want to make sure that you’re doing it in a systematic, deliberate, intentional way. And since there’s only one President at a time, my advice to him has been that before he starts having a lot of interactions with foreign governments other than the usual courtesy calls, that he should want to have his full team in place, that he should want his team to be fully briefed on what’s gone on in the past and where the potential pitfalls may be, where the opportunities are, what we’ve learned from eight years of experience, so that as he’s then maybe taking foreign policy in a new direction, he’s got all the information to make good decisions and, by the way, that all of government is moving at the same time and singing from the same hymnal.

And with respect to China -- and let’s just take the example of Taiwan -- there has been a longstanding agreement, essentially, between China, the United States, and, to some degree, the Taiwanese, which is to not change the status quo. Taiwan operates differently than mainland China does. China views Taiwan as part of China, but recognizes that it has to approach Taiwan as an entity that has its own ways of doing things. The Taiwanese have agreed that as long as they’re able to continue to function with some degree of autonomy, that they won’t charge forward and declare independence.

And that status quo, although not completely satisfactory to any of the parties involved, has kept the peace and allowed the Taiwanese to be a pretty successful economy and a people who have a high degree of self-determination. But understand, for China, the issue of Taiwan is as important as anything on their docket. The idea of one China is at the heart of their conception as a nation.

And so if you are going to upend this understanding, you have to have thought through what the consequences are, because the Chinese will not treat that the way they’ll treat some other issues. They won’t even treat it the way they treat issues around the South China Sea, where we’ve had a lot of tensions. This goes to the core of how they see themselves. And their reaction on this issue could end up being very significant.

That doesn’t mean that you have to adhere to everything that’s been done in the past. It does mean that you’ve got to think it through and have planned for potential reactions that they may engage in.

Many people were shocked to see that Obama had used "autonomy" as if Taiwan were Tibet or Xinjiang. This goes to the core of how they see themselves. Wrong in two ways: one China is not a case of China seeing itself, but a case of expansionism dressed up as a historical wrong. And second, once again we get an explanation of how people feel that doesn't include the Taiwanese side. Let's put that back in (h/t to Wilfred Chan):
More than 80 percent of respondents self-identified as Taiwanese, compared with 8.1 percent who identified themselves as Chinese and 7.6 percent who identified as both in the poll, whose wording asked respondents if they viewed themselves as “Taiwanese,” “Chinese” or had “other thoughts.”

When asked to choose between eventual independence and unification with China, more than 51 percent said they favored independence, while 15 percent favored unification and 25 percent favored maintaining the “status quo.”

“The results represent a historic peak for identification as Taiwanese and show that it has decisively replaced identification as Chinese as Taiwan’s mainstream ethnic identification,” foundation chairman You Ying-lung (游盈隆) said, attributing respondents’ relatively high support for independence to the poll’s focus on an eventual future rather than the immediate choice used in many surveys.
Does Obama even really know what US policy is on Taiwan and its status? You can't tell from this answer. Nowhere does Obama apply terms like ally, friend, democracy, security, trade, relationship, to Taiwan. It's classic Obama vacu-speak, pretty speech that says nothing. You certainly don't get a sense from this that President Obama understands China as an expansionist power.

Obama using Beijing propaganda to explain China? That's a great victory for Beijing.
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Anonymous said...

Obama is trying to buy time for next administration. He wanted to keep China from creating too much trouble before the next administration takes over. By saying everything Chinese wanted to hear, he gave Zhongnanhai excuse to rein in the hard-line faction from doing too much. I think Taiwan has responded perfectly. The major parties stays mute and small parties like NPP express outrage.

US is preparing for war. I have never seen so many "ex"-military in the cabinet level posts before. Trump will stimulate the economy by feeding the military industrial complex. This is the only way to bring back good blue collar jobs (well paid)in large scale. US needs another WWII. Destroy China and do another Marshall Plan for China will work perfectly. Dose China know it has become the well fed swine that is ready for slaughter?

TaiwanJunkie said...

Growing up following the masses in regard to my position on gay rights and gay marriage, I have found my position on the subject change and evolve primarily due to the brave men and women of the LGBT community who despite the vast overwhelming public opinion against them, forged ahead and believed in themselves and came out to society and finally won over hearts and minds until today, when even Obama has had a change of heart and is now fully supportive of LGBT rights and freedom and equality. The key in the LGBT victory is this: had the brave souls not come out of the closet despite overwhelming public objection, the current reality would have never been achieved.

Being Taiwanese is much of the same. We know deep within ourselves our identity as a nation and the reality of us as an independent sovereign, but the world community and vast overwhelming Chinese opinion is against this reality. It is time we learn from the LGBT activists and draw inspiration from them, come out of the "One China" closet, and declare ourselves as separate and equal people with our own sovereign nation. That is what it takes, we have to take the first step, no one else can do that for us.

Anonymous said...

Tsai administration has provided the right response to the Obama 's speech and then use a legislator to issue statement to placate the DPP supporters. It is all coordinated dance.

NPP's response is more genuine. I think a lot of DPP legislators are jealous of freedom enjoyed by NPP.

Anonymous said...

They still have no idea about what to do with Taiwan.

StefanMuc said...

The "agreement" claim certainly doesn't convey understanding of the political situation. It implies some sort of negotiation, when in reality Taiwan is simply being constrained by military threats from China.

Anonymous said...

That language sure explains the policy we've been seeing for the last 8 years. Almost as bad as the terms he used to describe Taiwan was how long he paused to come up with them. Shameful.

Anonymous said...

Article about US/China relationship and not even one word about Taiwan:

China has really muzzled the US diplomats.

Anonymous said...

Obama sounds like an adult to me in this piece. He's basically aware that there are 3 sides with competing narratives and interests and a diplomatic solution might not be totally satisfying to any of them but it allows them to function and cooperate. I'm sure you may be disappointed that he's using the word 'autonomy' instead of 'freedom fries' in his depiction, but this is not vacu-speak at all.

When I hear vacu-speak, its the language of the far right National Review crowd and their Cowboys and Indians my way or the highway nonsense. ally, friend, democracy, freedom......used to hear that from Bush on a day to day basis in the leadup to the last fiasco. Now we're putting on little red hats and cuing up the same record. Unreal.

White supremacy: When the last guy kept you out of trouble for two terms and the guys coming in are the guys that lead the US to economic ruin and a military debacle the last time, but everyone is stupid for pointing that out. Because what could go wrong when angry white guys with a revenge motive against Obama get the keys to the car.