Sunday, May 27, 2012

DPP Chairmanship Vote Results

Enjoy some links since I am too tired to blog today. The new DPP Chairman is Su Tseng-chang. Here are the results of the election, just flipped to me:

Total votes 163,808
turnout rate 68.62%

Su Tseng-chang 55,894 50.47%
Su Huan-chih 23,281 21.02%
Chai Trong-rong 12,497 11.28%
Wu Rong-i 16,315 14.73%
Hsu Hsin-liang 2,763 2.49%

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les said...

Quite surprised Hsu Hsinliang has 20 friends in the DPP, let alone 2,000.

Anonymous said...

Another interesting article :

How could the world not understand what is China true will now...

FOARP said...

Well, here's that 4th para.

"The historic events that led to Taiwan’s ambiguous international status today are commonly known. A civil war in the 1940s between the ruling Kuomintang (KMT) and the rebel forces of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) on the Chinese Mainland ended in the retreat of the government of the Republic of China to Taiwan. The island could only be held due to a military intervention of the United States (U.S.). Taiwan, a Japanese colony from 1895 until 1945, had been returned to China after World War II, but controversy broke out in the early 1950s over which of the two governments represented China: the newly founded People’s Republic of China, or the Republic of China that had erected its “wartime capital” in Taipei and was waiting for an opportunity to “reconquer the Mainland.”"

Since I know you don't like the idea that there was any arrangement to dispose of Taiwan after World War II, I know the part your talking about is that in italics above. This, however, depends simply on how you construct events. According to the construction that most people apply - that Japan renounced all claims to territory outside of the home islands when they surrendered in 1945, and the ROC occupied the island shortly thereafter - it's quite accurate. You might wish to simply ignore Japan's acceptance of the Potsdam declaration and argue that Japan still claimed sovereignty over Taiwan after that, but it places a strain on the facts as they are known.

Michael Turton said...

FOARP, I know you're trying really hard here. But the real history is well known, except she doesn't know it and apparently, neither do you. Taiwan was never "returned" to China, Japan remained sovereign until April of 1952, and the policy of all the Powers save France, and including the US and Japan to this day, is that the status of Taiwan is undetermined. No internationally-recognized document anywhere assigns the sovereignty of Taiwan to the ROC or the PRC or to some unidentified China. If you do not know that, perhaps it is time you learned. It is not difficult, even for those whose competence is hamstrung by their pathetic obsessions, to find out what is really going on.


Michael Turton said...

FOARP, quit trolling. In the future, post at your own blog. There you and your pals can display your awesomeness and my nothingness to your heart's content.

Michael Turton said...

After signing the treaty [of Taipei], the ROC delegate, then ROC foreign minister George Yeh (葉公超), faced harsh questioning from legislators in a Legislative Yuan meeting regarding why the treaty between the ROC and Japan did not state unambiguously that Taiwan and Penghu were returned to the ROC.

Yeh replied that "No provision has been made either in the San Francisco Treaty or the Sino-Japanese Treaty as to the future of Taiwan and Penghu." Yeh further explained: "In fact, we control them now, and undoubtedly they constitute a part of our territories. The delicate international situation, however, means that they do not belong to us. In these circumstances, Japan has no right to transfer Formosa (Taiwan) and the Pescadores (Penghu) to us. Nor could we accept such a transfer from Japan even if she wished to do so."

Even the ROC recognizes the international situation. It's not hard to find, Wiki has part of Yeh's discussion.

blobOfNeurons said...

That's one ugly robot.