Sunday, September 24, 2006

Daily Links, Sept 24, 2006


A Tainan street.

Tried the new Flock Browser today. Lotsa fun with the cool photo uploading options...

....onto the links...


My life: early morning in the train station

Paogao gives a pro-Blue slant on the protests, and even mounts a defense of James Soong (why?). If you get a chance, check out his Flickr account; it has some great pictures.


Dog and Man at Tai Chi

Doubting to Shuo opens its first Laowai on Laowai debate. Prince Roy fires the return salvo.


Experimenting with photos of Taichung at night. Still haven't got it right.

Kerim gives a thoughtful point of view on the coup in Thailand...


Man contemplating a river in Taichung.

The Gentle Rant goes to Turtle Island. Great account of a trip, previously published.


My life: early morning in the train station.

Pro-Blue blogger ESWN totally lost it the other day:

The Tainan Videos (09/21/2006) In Comment 200609#062, I was talking about how it was only a matter of time before the videos of the assault on the lady in the red car would appear on YouTube for the whole world to see. Here are two televised clips forwarded by Sun Bin. The current media slogan is: "The whole world is watching." In these videos, you can watch how green supporters assaulted a female anti-Chen Shui-bian protestor in a red car. This is the sort of thing that you will find that Taipei Times and the green bloggers have little or nothing to say about, even though this is on CNN.

Fortunately, refuting ESWN is like shooting whales in a swimming pool: there were at least three articles in the Taipei Times, found in about a one minute search: Demerits given to Tainan, Kaohsiung police officials, Clashes again, Appeals for calm. Probably there were more, but I just don't have the time to waste on his pro-Blue fantasy world.

Turning to the light, and the profoundly moving: The Foreigner pointed to these Jedi Squirrels: if you strike them down, they grow stronger....and my man Jason welcomes newborn Alec. This will mean less blogging, though. Hmmm.....

12 comments:

Sun Bin said...

You call Paogao pro-blue? I would love to hear what he says about this. :)

He was not defending Soong. He was merely comparing the Soong apologist with the Chen apologist, noting the immense similarity.

vvv said...

Instead of just pointing us to poagao's journal, which I appreciate, I think you should have engaged him in his comments section since I'm sure you are one of the bloggers he was talking about.

Michael Turton said...

Every time I read Poagao, he's hacking on the DPP or democracy supporters. That's why I assumed he was pro-Blue. He certainly talks like one.

Michael

Michael Turton said...

vvv

yes, I thought so too, and I left a comment. Poagao moderates, but I'm sure he'll let it go.

Michael

Michael Turton said...

BTW, Sun, if you can't tell the difference between Soong and Chen, you've got serious problems.

Michael

Anonymous said...

Pro Blue or not, he seems to try to justify the current mayhem as legitmate paybacks by the blue for the same things the green has done in the past. That's what I have a problem with, because the blues are the first ones to cry that all the corruption that ocurred under the KMT (which you have to admit makes Sogo coupons look like child's play) should be forgotten as those things ocurred in "different times".

Anonymous said...

I work with average Taiwanese all day every day and believe me I actively try to get everybody's take ont the current situation. This is in Taoyuan/Taipei County and most folks are admittedly blue (although when you talk to them one on one you realize that being 'blue' mostly means that they don't like A-Bian but don't consider the KMT much, if any, better of an alternative). Aside from a few "depose Chen" folks, the vast majority are not happy about the chaos that is going on and think Shih Ming-teh is being unreasonable and just looking for some limelight.

When I asked one high level manager of an international company, who is in favor of Chen stepping down, whether he thought things would be any better if VP Lu stepped in, he replied, "Well, the current situation is all about emotions and not logic. People don't really consider what things will be like after Chen steps down. They just want him to step down and they'll feel better".

Sun Bin said...

of course i can tell the difference between these two hacks. (well chen wasn more normal until very recently).
but it is hard to tell the difference between their apologists...so much alike.

Anonymous said...

Before seeing the videos I had heard about this incident from several folks who claimed pro-Chen people smashed a girl's car up randomly just because it was red. Of course, nobody could ever justify the smashing of someone's car for any reason - it was really startling and disgusting. That being said, though, you can't help but notice that this was not necessarily 'random'. Something had happened and she was already being followed by a small crowd before she ever got to her car. Whatever it was, it could never justify what happened next, but unfortunately after watching the lopsided media coverage of the depose Chen campaign I honestly don't believe that anybody is getting full, fair, and unbiased information in this country.

Michael Turton said...

but it is hard to tell the difference between their apologists...so much alike.

Yes, I've noticed all the pro-demcoracy people supporting Soong, and all the pro-China types backing Chen.

Michael

Sun Bin said...

Don't to try play smart with words :)

Poagao has responded. If you really did not get it, see Poagao's own response. (you probably need to highlight to get the color contrast on this site)

Michael Turton said...

I'll go look at Poagao tomorrow.

Michael