tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post8777010762259713098..comments2023-10-22T18:25:39.688+08:00Comments on The View from Taiwan: Sentence ParsingMichael Turtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-44977741694482589762009-09-05T14:56:43.656+08:002009-09-05T14:56:43.656+08:00Yes, I'm curious to see what will happen to he...Yes, I'm curious to see what will happen to her for the other charges...<br /><br />I wish we could meet in person. Aaargh.<br /><br />MichaelMichael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-3125144597100068902009-09-05T12:01:35.706+08:002009-09-05T12:01:35.706+08:00Michael, you wrote:
"The best they can do i...Michael, you wrote: <br /><br />"The best they can do is a year for perjury? This sentence appears to be more or less an admission that they don't have anything on Wu." <br /><br />But Wu is still facing other charges. This was just the trial for perjury. I know the local media have been pretty crappy in their coverage but the BBC explained it clearly: <br /><br />"The verdict is the first in a string of corruption-related cases against the couple, their relatives and associates...Wu Shu-chen faces further charges in the coming weeks, and the verdict for the case against her husband is due on 11 September."Robert Scott Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17790139614002283723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-15617801140102705792009-09-05T01:55:19.750+08:002009-09-05T01:55:19.750+08:00I'm curious - how do most Taiwanese feel about...I'm curious - how do most Taiwanese feel about Chen's trial and conviction? <br /><br />Chen seems to have been erratic, at one point admitting to the charges if I understand correctly.<br /><br />On the other hand, the erratic behavior could be explained in part by his incarceration and treatment by the authorities. (He seems to be a weak-minded and inconsistent man compared to other national politicians.) And certainly the circumstances of his incarceration should cause concern. And then a very serious matter that seems to get little attention is the prosecution of the attorney who attempted to prosecute Ma for corruption.<br /><br />Yet even in the pro-Taiwan Taipei Times I read very little of public outrage about the apparent attempt by the KMT to use the judicial yuan to turn Taiwan into a Singapore-style state where democracy is formally practiced but where people who get too popular or cross the ruling party find themselves facing trumped up charges.<br /><br />I keep wondering how the Taiwanese are reacting. Has anyone seen any polling? Does anyone know what is going on in people's heads? Where are the protests?Readinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-52854134481694980992009-09-04T15:02:06.014+08:002009-09-04T15:02:06.014+08:00Just yesterday, 3 of Ma Ying-jeou's employees ...Just yesterday, 3 of Ma Ying-jeou's employees who committed the forgery to help Mayor Ma to channel the mayor's special funds were pardoned with a "non-indictment". <br /><br /><a href="http://www.libertytimes.com.tw/2009/new/sep/3/today-p6.htm" rel="nofollow">馬特別費案/北市府三出納 緩起訴</a>Taiwan Echohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17018124148446093746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-44526151711521700412009-09-04T10:21:08.514+08:002009-09-04T10:21:08.514+08:00Robert, I was going to blog on that too. I think i...Robert, I was going to blog on that too. I think it's a case of the DPP reporting all/most of its donations, and the KMT reporting some/few of its donations. <br /><br />Dixteel, you are so right. Diana Chen can chair my financial corporation any time she likes.<br /><br />I think the issue with Wu's sentence lightness is that she was basically caricatured as the Queen of Evil. I've also heard that because of her physical handicaps they didn't want the expense of housing her for the long-term.<br /><br />Chen Shui-bian is doomed, though.Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-35733400592519689012009-09-04T08:11:13.107+08:002009-09-04T08:11:13.107+08:00Michael,
Only sentences of six months or less qua...Michael, <br />Only sentences of six months or less qualify for community service. As such only the kids qualify, Wu and Diana Chen don't.HeiShouDang 黑手黨https://www.blogger.com/profile/02193732868028532436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-86217409899463251632009-09-04T04:00:08.587+08:002009-09-04T04:00:08.587+08:00Just checked out the barcode link. That reminds me...Just checked out the barcode link. That reminds me: I own a Tatung paper shredder which has a "471" barcode on the box. That same box also indicates that it was made in China, unfortunately. [<a href="http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2083/471madeinchina.jpg" title="471 barcode, but made in ''C國''" rel="nofollow">image link</a>]<br /><br />It's more likely that the "471" designation is for Taiwanese companies, even when their factories are in the "C[死]國" (台語發音).<br /><br /><a href="http://taiwanmatters.blogspot.com/" title="Taiwan Matters!" rel="nofollow">Tim Maddog</a>Tim Maddoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16943522529132663780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-43318540271898612542009-09-04T03:24:11.335+08:002009-09-04T03:24:11.335+08:00Michael, you wrote:
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Chen, who is smart, comp...Michael, you wrote:<br />- - -<br /><i>Chen, who is smart, competent, and totally hot (more info + pic), will do a year and six months because she insisted she was innocent.</i><br>- - -<br /><br />In other words, since she, Wu Shu-jen, Chen Chih-chung, Huang Jui-ching, Chen Hsing-yu, and Chao Chien-ming didn't give testimony which matched the Chinese Nationalist Party's (<a title="KMT = Kuomintang, or 'Killed Many Taiwanese'" rel="nofollow">KMT</a>) distorted imaginings, they call that "perjury."<br /><br />It's truly a "<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ze77D3Yw70" title="1984 ~~ Part - 9 of 12" rel="nofollow">2+2</a>=<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJxL21Zm7-0" title="1984 ~~ Part - 10 of 12" rel="nofollow">5</a>" world in the heads of the <a title="KMT = Kuomintang, or 'Killed Many Taiwanese'" rel="nofollow">KMT</a> and their supporters. (Watch the scene, even if you think you remember it. Yep, Room "101.")<br /><br /><a href="http://taiwanmatters.blogspot.com/" title="Taiwan Matters!" rel="nofollow">Tim Maddog</a>Tim Maddoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16943522529132663780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-59856581090073613782009-09-04T00:30:19.495+08:002009-09-04T00:30:19.495+08:00Thank you for the analysis.
I just reposted this a...Thank you for the analysis.<br />I just reposted this article to my blog, and made some Han(Chinese) notes.<br /><br />http://twnathan.blogspot.com/Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14458262055857593153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-85439281957068913512009-09-03T23:52:17.791+08:002009-09-03T23:52:17.791+08:00Question: Is Wu's sentence actually light for ...Question: Is Wu's sentence actually light for the charges? My wife seems to indicate that from what she's seen, it is relatively heavy. There ought to be easy access to precedents on this to compare with.阿牛https://www.blogger.com/profile/08403972286057197709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-91976361646942955872009-09-03T23:27:41.759+08:002009-09-03T23:27:41.759+08:00When you replace a hot woman with an ugly suasage ...When you replace a hot woman with an ugly suasage as the chairman of Taipei 101, that is just wrong. WRONG, I said.Dixteelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05689510846926854542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-86315915354255344612009-09-03T22:28:26.013+08:002009-09-03T22:28:26.013+08:00Don't know about that. The Control Yuan issued...Don't know about that. The Control Yuan issued a report on political contributions yesterday and the DPP topped the list at $600m to the KMT's 578m. <br />http://www.kmt.org.tw/english/page.aspx?type=article&mnum=112&anum=6814Robert Scott Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17790139614002283723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-77299933154622453202009-09-03T21:49:44.971+08:002009-09-03T21:49:44.971+08:00They are going after Diane Chen because they want ...They are going after Diane Chen because they want to scare everyone away from donating to the DPP. See, the normal thing to do in a case like this would be to enact campaign finance reform legislation. But that would be positive long term change, and the KMT can't have that happening can it...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com