tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post7780573669326411346..comments2023-10-22T18:25:39.688+08:00Comments on The View from Taiwan: Nelson Report on the Ma-Xi MeetingMichael Turtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-8407127941839777202015-11-06T02:50:54.592+08:002015-11-06T02:50:54.592+08:00Frankly speaking, R. Bush and D.Paul's perspec...Frankly speaking, R. Bush and D.Paul's perspectives are out-of-date, and aren't really coping with the evolution of the Chinese mindset and Chinese behaviour. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01104484904517388428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-45792117348743215812015-11-05T19:56:50.916+08:002015-11-05T19:56:50.916+08:00Sugar apples and persimmons! An apt reminder of bo...Sugar apples and persimmons! An apt reminder of both the history of Formosa and the challenges Zhongnanhai can look forward to, would it ever be allowed to enjoy “its” Taiwan. Sugar apples! So creamy, so subtly fragrant. But try and maintain table conversation while sorting out mouthful after mouthful of pesky seeds. <br /><br />Personally, with mangos, those two are at the top of my fruits list, too. Their sight conflates childhood memories and of Taiwan forty years ago. Of a breakfast of sugar apples and coffee at a terrace in Karenko (花蓮港). <br /><br />The conversation going on on this thread (four first posts from top) as I am posting) is revealing. Thumbs up to Anon.Nov5@8:45am for having elicited Bill Snowden's scathing remark.Jerome Bessonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12958179528113268616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-3126314279857294102015-11-05T16:17:40.097+08:002015-11-05T16:17:40.097+08:00@ Anonymous
we taiwanese are indeed little and ski...@ Anonymous<br />we taiwanese are indeed little and skinny, mostly, figuratively, and physically. There are also a lot of drunkards, retards, hookers, thefts, liars, ... among us. well these are called ordinary people. <br /><br />when the whole world fear CHINA, CHINA fears us little and skinny taiwanese. WHY? <br /><br />hehe :-)an sngry taiwanesenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-88800145305374332362015-11-05T15:30:14.167+08:002015-11-05T15:30:14.167+08:00What people of Taiwan want dose matter. As it stan...What people of Taiwan want dose matter. As it stand right now, neither China or US can order Taiwan to do anything. They(China & US) might have great influence but they are not in control. People of Taiwan have the real control through our democratic system. There will be hell to pay if someone want to take it away. <br /><br />Taiwan might seem weak militarily when compare to China but Taiwan is not a helpless. The whole world is moving away from authoritarian style of government in China. Easter Europe and even Russia are going down the road of democratic rule. Time is one Taiwan's side. This meeting of CCP and KMT is the beginning of the end for both of them.<br /><br /><br /> Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11479859890548697569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-87074496851513533242015-11-05T11:11:20.599+08:002015-11-05T11:11:20.599+08:00It makes one feel streetwise, but this attitude is...It makes one feel streetwise, but this attitude is essentially ignorant and reactionary. Sure! Little people don't matter. All the <i>real</i> decisions are made in Whitehall, or the Kremlin, or Foggy Bottom, or Zhongnanhai, or up on the fucking Palatine Hill; why do people bother having political ideas and opinions at all? If only they were as wise as I am, they'd know their place and <i>defer</i>. But what ordinary people want, including even what ordinary <i>Taiwanese</i> people want, does matter, Anonymous, just like the actual location of a river matters: because all that lovely power you admire so much isn't in fact deployed cleanly in a vacuum like so many units in a video game, but is embodied and enacted by real people in contact with other real people. Welcome to politics! Taiwanese politics, believe it or not, is not just "noise", just as Iraqi politics, or Syrian politics, or Ukrainian politics are not just the braying of indistinct herds. It seems to me what you're really saying is, "I don't know what's going on down there, therefore it isn't important." It's another symptom of the pathology that gives us, "I don't vote, they're all the same." The apathy, the incuriousness, is dispiriting; but it's the world-weary pose, the I-know-better, that really sparks my ire.Bill Snowdennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-11500943905312079692015-11-05T08:41:48.485+08:002015-11-05T08:41:48.485+08:00Even if the DPP and its allies want independence, ...Even if the DPP and its allies want independence, they cannot provide it. Even if Ma wants unification, he cannot provide it. Whether Taiwan becomes independent or joins China is not a decision for the Taiwanese to make. The decision rests with the PRC and the USA: what is the PRC willing to pay to incorporate Taiwan and what is the USA willing to pay to prevent it. Taiwanese, Blue and Green, can make all the noise they want but in the end, it won't make a bit of difference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com