tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post3225852206529577838..comments2023-10-22T18:25:39.688+08:00Comments on The View from Taiwan: Phils/Taiwan Mess Roundup 4: No animal has lower IQ than a nationalist mob screaming for bloodMichael Turtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-20560234727927761562013-05-19T22:10:37.180+08:002013-05-19T22:10:37.180+08:00I'm really shocked that no one is taking to ta...I'm really shocked that no one is taking to task whoever this racist "anonymous" is. This person clearly has an axe to grind against Pinoys.<br /><br />In an attempt to piss on Anon's rant, I'd like to correct the repetitive ranting part: "Manila is the 'kidnap n (sic) murder capital'of the world."<br /><br />Here are the 10 nations with the highest kidnapping rates:<br /><br />1. Mexico<br />2. Iraq<br />3. India<br />4. South Africa<br />5. Brazil<br />6. Pakistan<br />7. Ecuador<br />8. Venezuela<br />9. Colombia<br />10. Bangladesh<br />11. Nigeria<br />12. Haiti<br />13. Afghanistan <br />Source: IKV Pax Christi Netherlands <br /><br />And the highest murder rates:<br /><br />Honduras<br />El Salvador<br />Cote d'Ivoire<br />Jamaica<br />Venezuela<br />Belize <br />Guatemala<br />Saint Kitts and Nevis <br />Zambia <br />Uganda<br />Source: UNODC<br /><br />NOTE: Sadly, some of these are among Taiwan's few allies.<br /><br />The gun homicide rate for the entire nation of the Philippines is comparable to that of Los Angeles. The rate is marginally higher compared to other SE Asian countries, but quite low worldwide. So, if you think Manila is unsafe, you'll want to avoid "murderous" LA, too. In fact, the top 20 murderous cities in the world are in the Americas and Africa, not Asia or Europe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-66451370045156608682013-05-19T19:26:43.116+08:002013-05-19T19:26:43.116+08:00Glad someone has the courage to anonymously spew r...Glad someone has the courage to anonymously spew racism on the internet.Evannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-60309817109137447442013-05-19T19:16:53.431+08:002013-05-19T19:16:53.431+08:00All these crazy talks, Taiwanese Hans calling for ...All these crazy talks, Taiwanese Hans calling for war, Ma calling the incident a cold blood murder on Pinoy's side; Taiwanese team in Manila not recognized, according to the news, upon arrival in Manila, absolute no cooperation from Phillipine. Salt to the would, Philippine officers actually said they had no idea of the arrival. Then Philippine stated that PCG only fired 2 shots. But the hull of the boat shows 40+ bullet holes, but the locations were in consistent with the Philipine claim, that the ship was trying to ram vessel PCG was on. It looks like both sides are not being honest, except that Taiwanese unarmed fishing boat did try to ram the PCG.<br /><br />And Taiwanese fishing boats are known around the globe for poaching in waters of other countries. Lots of Taiwanese running meth-labs, underground businesses in Phillipines. So PCG got into Taiwanese water to loot them? Maybe it happened, but this one does not look like the case, and it is hard to convince Taiwanese were not poaching.<br /><br />And to send all the cheap labours from Philippine home? Who will replace them? The reason they have labourers from so many countries is because those are the kind of positions that no locals will take.<br /><br />One question: Is it true that the natives in Taiwan are related to the natives in Luzon?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-78792480244624625202013-05-19T14:14:49.426+08:002013-05-19T14:14:49.426+08:00Cebu Pacific Air in January had my address simply ...Cebu Pacific Air in January had my address simply as in 'Taiwan'. Now it's in 'Chinese Taipei'. Way to go Matong, another diplomatic victory.lesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-34113031396074974372013-05-19T09:32:43.806+08:002013-05-19T09:32:43.806+08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-64105536011169564432013-05-19T08:16:09.086+08:002013-05-19T08:16:09.086+08:00Ryan, this blog is aimed at outsiders, not locals....Ryan, this blog is aimed at outsiders, not locals. There's no way I can affect local opinion.<br /><br />Michael<br /><br />Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-77034557434624480622013-05-19T03:34:29.106+08:002013-05-19T03:34:29.106+08:00And IMO, based on the trajectory diagram, they wer...And IMO, based on the trajectory diagram, they were aiming indeed for the engine area<br /><br />But still, the US should try to investigate this as probing by both sides is going to be biasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-78471726696044849662013-05-19T03:33:02.225+08:002013-05-19T03:33:02.225+08:00On update:
I won't coclude anything as both s...On update:<br /><br />I won't coclude anything as both sides, esp the Taiwanese had already had a conclusion before they inspected the boat, it seems.<br /><br />The only way to get an OBJECTIVE investigation is for the US to examine the boatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-4294920773447483492013-05-19T03:32:29.300+08:002013-05-19T03:32:29.300+08:00I think we need to await the result of the investi...I think we need to await the result of the investigation to be able to say if the allegations regarding the coastguard of the Philippines are right or wrong.<br /><br />However, one thing that is definitely wrong is to punish the entire Filipino community in Taiwan because of what the coastguard did! <br /><br />It is as though one arrested a whole family because one of its member has allegedly committed a crime. This practice resembles summary punishments in imperial China. <br /><br />It is outrageous to foster ethnic tensions in Taiwan because of an issue that should be solved by the two governments. Punishing innocent Filipino workers is in my opinion a clear violation of human rights, and there is definitely nothing glorious in bullying innocent people. Aris Teonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03908667041766497133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-84067046958684647042013-05-19T02:21:36.896+08:002013-05-19T02:21:36.896+08:00"Stories are running around the net of Filipi..."Stories are running around the net of Filipinos refused service (a hoax)"<br /><br />Why do you think the stories of Filipinos being refused service are a hoax? We've heard multiple stories from our local Filipino worker community here in Nanzih District, Kaohshiung. And there are newspaper reports of signs being put up at establishments in Changhua.<br /><br />It actually looks more to me like there's an informal movement on Facebook to discredit the stories by repeating the "where's the evidence" line.Evanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07880150865703945798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-73969047942568142522013-05-18T22:50:56.654+08:002013-05-18T22:50:56.654+08:00The commenter making a deal about the kidnapping w...The commenter making a deal about the kidnapping will not mention that a lot of the master minds are Mainland Chinesr or Taiwanese. Check out the case of Rowena Uy of La Union. In addition, they also are the forerunners of illegal meth labs. <br /><br />To add to that, there is a disdain of mainland and taiwanese BY LOCAL CHINESE<br /><br />If the Philippines truly hate their local Chinese, they would have pulled a riot like Indonesia in 1997 did... but they have not. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-74913857088875174612013-05-18T22:04:17.498+08:002013-05-18T22:04:17.498+08:00"...could make one go postal! Or, bi-polar; o..."...could make one go postal! Or, bi-polar; or even gay!"<br /><br />"...there's something sick about this culture that endangers /kills babies as young as such, but condemns the use of condoms."<br /><br />Michael, do we really need to hear from these homophobic racists?<br /><br />--marcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-12187657377569031272013-05-18T21:37:42.425+08:002013-05-18T21:37:42.425+08:00On the one hand, you claim that the nationalist mo...On the one hand, you claim that the nationalist mob are idiots and one the other, you concede that the media behaves like a golden retriever. What's a typical Taiwanese to do? I mean, really. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-84487187124786831932013-05-18T20:13:45.818+08:002013-05-18T20:13:45.818+08:00"A true babarian pirate coastguard crew would..."A true babarian pirate coastguard crew would not have let that fishing boat go home with one dead crew member. The lot of them would be on the bottom, along with the boat. No evidence."<br /><br />No, the coast guard just really hated the fisherman who died and had to set all of this elaborate patrols and reports and bait the guy into fishing inside Phil territory to murder him.<br /><br />At least thats how I imagined what happened based on factual opinions on taiwan news sites. Oh they also think taiwan should own northern tip of luzon (the island) because it falls within 200 NM of the southern tip of Taiwan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-69496607451302498102013-05-18T17:53:03.368+08:002013-05-18T17:53:03.368+08:00this is just politics in the part of Taiwan, howev...this is just politics in the part of Taiwan, however, Philippines should pay the family and arrest the murderers. the fisherman clearly don't have guns. you don't shoot anyone unarmed. <br /><br />Insurance bloghttp://bloomingalmond.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-76325883193848394902013-05-18T15:57:43.678+08:002013-05-18T15:57:43.678+08:00Michael, Ben,
I'm disgusted by the nationalis...Michael, Ben,<br /><br />I'm disgusted by the nationalisms and racism towards the Philippines, and I'm mad (but not surprised) that the Taiwanese media is feeding these things 24/7... <br /><br />however!<br /><br />You two (together with Oz) are doing a terrible job in countering that. All I read is speculation after speculation from you guys, while you also lack proper evidence and disregard several facts along the way. Why can't you just wait for a few days, and then write one good piece, instead of daily posts full of UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE, speculation, then strike-through and what not... <br /><br />Seriously, you're getting sloppy and you're drvien by anger, not by facts. As for Ben, he's always been like that, and I've never thought you'll lower yourself to his level.<br /><br />(I assume you won't publish this comment, which I don't really mind, I just wanted to tell you what I think)An old friend from Tainannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-51961101463659084882013-05-18T14:08:48.626+08:002013-05-18T14:08:48.626+08:00A true babarian pirate coastguard crew would not h...A true babarian pirate coastguard crew would not have let that fishing boat go home with one dead crew member. The lot of them would be on the bottom, along with the boat. No evidence.lesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-74517852177135459892013-05-18T12:39:17.429+08:002013-05-18T12:39:17.429+08:00"Unless that animal is a rabid racist Hoodlum..."Unless that animal is a rabid racist Hoodlum in Uniform, armed with deadly weapons, and his actions are unaccountable for since he's in the middle of a vast expanse of water in the Pacific Ocean. <br /><br />Oftentimes, the loneliness of being out there in the deep blue for so long could make one go postal! Or, bi-polar; or even gay!"<br /><br />The biggest problem I've been seeing among Taiwanese around the Internet is that there is already a presumption of guilt. Again, the investigation is ongoing. Even your investigators are here doing their own examinations.<br /><br />"Nonetheless, I'm not confident there's going to be a fair investigation, as usual, in Philippines' dysfunctional justice system. It's been more than a week already... and so far no video, or name of culprit. How long does it take for the PCG to doctor those vids to show result of having been rammed by an amateur dingy."<br /><br />I won't deny that our justice system is corrupt. However, keep in mind that we are a sovereign country and you have to respect our laws and processes just as we respect yours when one of our nationals is a victim of a crime perpetrated by your citizens. <br /><br />Mind you also that Manila is a lot safer now than it was back in the 90s. I'm a Chinese Filipino and I don't have to worry about anything bad happening while riding jeepneys, commuting on trains, etc. Of course, taking some of the usual precautions is always prudent but I'm not intimidated from going out on the streets. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09599569039974024329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-68105648850429825432013-05-18T12:35:20.734+08:002013-05-18T12:35:20.734+08:00CHINA PRC eating all this upCHINA PRC eating all this upAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-81296532942193780412013-05-18T11:04:43.918+08:002013-05-18T11:04:43.918+08:00Firstly, the natives of Taiwan and Filipinos are t...Firstly, the natives of Taiwan and Filipinos are the most genetically linked ppls in the world, thus Taiwanese "Han" are also related as well! Fujianese and Hakka taiwanese settlers are descendants of both Bai Yueh tribes and natives of Taiwan. China wants to divide and conquer, its not a power to make friend with!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-64832200446437507992013-05-18T10:09:49.692+08:002013-05-18T10:09:49.692+08:00A second fishing vessel did come out in the news f...A second fishing vessel did come out in the news five days after the incident, although the Taiwan media didn't make too much of it, and avoided the issue altogether of whether both fishing vessels were in Philippine waters or not that day (surprise, surprise). <br /><br />http://tw.news.yahoo.com/%E6%94%BB%E6%93%8A%E7%95%B6%E5%A4%A9-%E8%8F%B2%E6%9C%AC%E8%A6%81%E5%86%8D%E8%A5%B2%E7%AC%AC2%E8%89%98%E8%88%B9-140441102.html <br /><br />Contrary to their dog-with-a-bone nature, the Taiwan media was surprisingly reserved and noncommittal on this one, a lot of Taiwanese people (like Turtle, the poster above, whom I assume is a Taiwanese) didn't even know about it. Makes you think, doesn't it?<br /><br />I also wonder why the second vessel didn't come forward earlier. I would've thought, with the nation up in such outrage, the other fishing vessels would've jumped out and reiterated the validity of their actions. That is, of course, if they were fishing in their own waters. It's been 9 days. Should we be optimistic and wait for the remaining vessels to come forward? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-54307373867175873372013-05-18T10:06:26.689+08:002013-05-18T10:06:26.689+08:00"No animal has lower IQ than a nationalist mo..."No animal has lower IQ than a nationalist mob screaming for blood... "<br /><br />Unless that animal is a rabid racist Hoodlum in Uniform, armed with deadly weapons, and his actions are unaccountable for since he's in the middle of a vast expanse of water in the Pacific Ocean. <br /><br />Oftentimes, the loneliness of being out there in the deep blue for so long could make one go postal! Or, bi-polar; or even gay! <br /><br />Nonetheless, I'm not confident there's going to be a fair investigation, as usual, in Philippines' dysfunctional justice system. It's been more than a week already... and so far no video, or name of culprit. How long does it take for the PCG to doctor those vids to show result of having been rammed by an amateur dingy.<br /><br />The Hungs would consider them selves lucky if this case comes to dock within one year, if ever at all!! And an eternity to actually get the murderer convicted. Just see this link...<br /><br />http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/video/52236/flashreport/court-convicts-19-people-in-Betty-Chua-Sy-kidnap-slay-case<br /><br />Poor Betty's family waited in anguish, for almost a decade to hear this verdict. It's a pyrrhic victory of course because some of these 19 monsters, have in the meantime, kidnapped, killed and maimed so many other innocent victims. <br /><br />There's rampant extortion kidnap and slaughter in the Philippines. The court system is groaning with overload. What's another dead stiff to them. <br /><br />http://pcij.org/stories/long-wait-for-justice/<br /><br />I'm willing to bet this dead fisherman's case will take at least 10 years to resolve (get a proper conviction, etc). Let's have a rendezvous on this blog a decade from today, huh Mr. Turton!<br /><br />Between 1993 and 2003, 2,330 victims (mostly ethnic Chinese)were kidnapped and some killed. Collectively they paid a total of $1,602,200,000 in ransom blood money. Many abducted were young children, literally babies. Jepson Dechaves' 2 sons were just 2yrs and 4yrs, respectively. Gian Jetho Chua was only 2-1/2 yrs old. There's something sick about this culture that endangers /kills babies as young as such, but condemns the use of condoms. Wacko!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-55215662448649660462013-05-18T06:33:08.089+08:002013-05-18T06:33:08.089+08:00Golly, and with that loss of cheap Filipino labor....Golly, and with that loss of cheap Filipino labor... is there a nearby country that might be looking to offload some workers on the cheap? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-14469528512912621762013-05-18T04:18:46.461+08:002013-05-18T04:18:46.461+08:00the other three vessels only exist in phils's ...the other three vessels only exist in phils's news. not in the really world. only one vessel was attacked.chhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00217304860858024142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-33130350186835158252013-05-18T00:14:18.406+08:002013-05-18T00:14:18.406+08:00Yes I agree that Philippine
Coast Guard need more...Yes I agree that Philippine <br />Coast Guard need more explanation. The government should conduct a thorough and impartial investigation. Disturbing however were reported beatings against Filipinos in Taiwan. Cannot solve violence with another one. How about Taiwanese got beaten in the Philippines too as retaliation. Or beheaded by radicals because of revenge. Actions of Taiwanese people should be closely monitored and controlled by their government.John Cnoreply@blogger.com