tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post2634634298394009209..comments2023-10-22T18:25:39.688+08:00Comments on The View from Taiwan: Students Beaten by Thugs as Cops Stand by, Ma calls for "tolerance"Michael Turtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-40623765373712910502009-05-07T23:41:00.000+08:002009-05-07T23:41:00.000+08:00"What I saw was "shuffling" of unruly students/bra..."What I saw was "shuffling" of unruly students/brats in the video, but I did not "beating" up. They were still shouting and acting up in the police station. Not exactly who is the "victims" here- the policemen who had to endure the unruly shouting in their station are the "victims" in my dictionary"<br /><br />I see. So the students (or is it "brats"?) were roughed up by thugs and arrested by the police for no reason. They then had the temerity to complain about the arrest. Oh the horror that those poor, poor police officers had to endure! <br /><br />Are you even trying to foster a serious debate (I don't know why I asked, because I can see you are not)? If you agree with what the police did, please base your reasons on something solid. You sound like a shrill ninny complaining because the neighbour next door is playing his music too loud while you are tooting away on your trumpet. It says much more about your intellectual immaturity than it detracts from the argument of the students in question.Tommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13552370490869601403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-5613510387606861522009-05-07T07:27:00.000+08:002009-05-07T07:27:00.000+08:00The raw venom and irrationality that drives it can...<B>The raw venom and irrationality that drives it can be felt. I don't know if I'd enjoy a whole lot of comments like this, but it is a good chuckle every one in awhile.</B><BR><BR>Thanks, that's pretty much why I let them through. It makes it clear, in a very dramatic way, what a bunch of vicious idiots the other side are.Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-86539844824088571802009-05-07T05:06:00.000+08:002009-05-07T05:06:00.000+08:00What I saw was "shuffling" of unruly students/brat...What I saw was "shuffling" of unruly students/brats in the video, but I did not "beating" up. They were still shouting and acting up in the police station. Not exactly who is the "victims" here- the policemen who had to endure the unruly shouting in their station are the "victims" in my dictionary, because they can't even talk about to the students. How powerless and patheic and still getting grief from people like you. It's funny how the TI foreingers like you always downplay DPP violence, but make unsubstainiatiated claims of supposedly violent treatment of DPP or "students". Whatever...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-83424851011310757842009-05-06T17:01:00.000+08:002009-05-06T17:01:00.000+08:00Michael, thanks for letting through the "Taidu act...Michael, thanks for letting through the "Taidu activists getting their asses kicked" comment. It's entertaining and informative that people say these things completely without a basis in fact. The raw venom and irrationality that drives it can be felt. I don't know if I'd enjoy a whole lot of comments like this, but it is a good chuckle every one in awhile.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-57189487089145373822009-05-06T14:45:00.000+08:002009-05-06T14:45:00.000+08:00"Always enjoy videos of Taidu activists getting th..."Always enjoy videos of Taidu activists getting their asses kicked. <br /><br />Of course, in your eyes, the students are "real" Taiwanese standing up for Taiwan... while the temple guards are some variety of the "other".'<br /><br />You know... I have read some fringe people on the TI side use this language, but on this blog I have only seen it referenced by critics who are attacking Mr. Turton for things he has never said. <br /><br />I am sorry Anon, but what are you referencing when you make such an inference? <br /><br />On this blog Mr. Turton has always held a nuanced understanding of identity politics and has been equally critical of the ethnic national deployment of identity. <br /><br />Could you please specify what exactly Mr. Turton has said than has given you the impression he endorses Taiwanese ethnic nationalism?<br /><br />This is the second time I have seen a message in the same vein that seems to come from nowhere.<br />I am just confused about this.<br /><br />ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-80727165028182467502009-05-06T13:59:00.000+08:002009-05-06T13:59:00.000+08:00China has 100 million people with mental illnessWo...<I>China has 100 million people with mental illnessWord is they are on the fast track for KMT membership. ~!</I>Does this include those that try to file complaints with the government? I don't think they're the KMT type.Robert R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12956389352825464115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-34456003758849001992009-05-06T13:41:00.000+08:002009-05-06T13:41:00.000+08:00Check this out, Michael, *very* disturbing.
http:/...Check this out, Michael, *very* disturbing.<br />http://www.plurk.com/p/s2o0sAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-92184535293146341902009-05-06T12:57:00.000+08:002009-05-06T12:57:00.000+08:006 goons arrested. Amen. Only three days late.
Mic...6 goons arrested. Amen. Only three days late.<br /><br />MichaelMichael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-58659593333029718862009-05-06T11:10:00.000+08:002009-05-06T11:10:00.000+08:00And in other news:
China has 100 million people ...And in other news: <br /><br /><A HREF="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/5235487/China-has-100-million-people-with-mental-illness.html" REL="nofollow">China has 100 million people with mental illness</A>Word is they are on the fast track for KMT membership. ~!reebnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-7781011678035232852009-05-06T10:23:00.000+08:002009-05-06T10:23:00.000+08:00Western industry finally understands---
whahaahah...Western industry finally understands---<br /><br />whahaahaha..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-66045889038876896842009-05-06T09:46:00.000+08:002009-05-06T09:46:00.000+08:00Apparently, 6 of the temple goons have now been ar...Apparently, 6 of the temple goons have now been arrested.cfimageshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17311764476271044148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-81165180486401771062009-05-06T07:10:00.000+08:002009-05-06T07:10:00.000+08:00Always enjoy videos of Taidu activists getting the...<B>Always enjoy videos of Taidu activists getting their asses kicked.<br /><br />Of course, in your eyes, the students are "real" Taiwanese standing up for Taiwan... while the temple guards are some variety of the "other".</B>Actually, nothing says the kids are Taidu activists. The temple thugs are also the real Taiwan, one fostered by the authoritarianism whose boots you lick.<br /><br />MichaelMichael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-39790919912982731992009-05-06T05:25:00.000+08:002009-05-06T05:25:00.000+08:00Students Beaten by Thugs as Cops Stand byHey, man,...<B>Students Beaten by Thugs as Cops Stand by</B>Hey, man, the police didn't stand by -- they arrested the students !!Taiwan Echohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17018124148446093746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-79966696471170620692009-05-06T01:23:00.000+08:002009-05-06T01:23:00.000+08:00What a disgrace! Cops and temple goons are a blemi...What a disgrace! Cops and temple goons are a blemish on this island. I'm surprised that you haven't done an expose on the links between organized crime and local "religious" organizations yet...maomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13032492741317904503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-25542889694842008242009-05-06T00:30:00.000+08:002009-05-06T00:30:00.000+08:00Nowadays you really cannot tell if you are reading...Nowadays you really cannot tell if you are reading news about Taiwan or China. Gangsters beating up protesters? <br />We do learn a lot from the Chinese, don't we?<br />MegAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-28215497426153182452009-05-06T00:17:00.000+08:002009-05-06T00:17:00.000+08:00We did run it on FTV English News on Monday night....We did run it on FTV English News on Monday night. I know our ratings are not high and not many watch but we occasionally do good work....<br />http://englishnews.ftv.com.tw/history.asp?date=2009/5/4Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06439152458690777534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-13563662560784457972009-05-05T23:52:00.000+08:002009-05-05T23:52:00.000+08:00This is outrageous! It's amazing how many people ...This is outrageous! It's amazing how many people China has working for them in Taiwan.Islanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027760124467699924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-84364785261834441472009-05-05T23:28:00.000+08:002009-05-05T23:28:00.000+08:00Wow, this is kind of disturbing to read. This take...Wow, this is kind of disturbing to read. This taken into account with the incident of that blogger meeting interrogation recently speak of an overly-sensitive security apparatus.<br /><br />If you don't mind, would you be willing to post the name of the book you mentioned as being reviewed in FEER? I'm afraid the link requires a subscription login. Thanks!Dalbanesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14579595336704684246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-71584747186765415852009-05-05T23:21:00.000+08:002009-05-05T23:21:00.000+08:00Always enjoy videos of Taidu activists getting the...Always enjoy videos of Taidu activists getting their asses kicked. <br /><br />Of course, in your eyes, the students are "real" Taiwanese standing up for Taiwan... while the temple guards are some variety of the "other".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-14134909394957457932009-05-05T23:04:00.000+08:002009-05-05T23:04:00.000+08:00Out of curiosity, what local media picked this up?...Out of curiosity, what local media picked this up? I worry more that Taiwanese would not learn about this than about whether foreigners learn about it or not.<br /><br />And as long as you are on the subject of China and India, you might like this article:<br />http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/04/business/media/04media.html?ref=business<br /><br />It seems that at least one Western industry finally understands the myth of the 1.3 billion Chinese customers just waiting to buy their product. Yep, in the media industry, China has actually gone cold, even for Warren Buffet of find-a-Chinese-wife-who-is-more-attractive-than-what-you-could- ever-get-at-home fame.Tommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13552370490869601403noreply@blogger.com