tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post1310678242046480771..comments2023-10-22T18:25:39.688+08:00Comments on The View from Taiwan: Rehabilitating Ma Ying-jeou??Michael Turtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-41770610935512013052009-09-12T21:53:37.299+08:002009-09-12T21:53:37.299+08:00If Obama the Brave will not welcome a democratical...If Obama the Brave will not welcome a democratically elected Taiwan President to the White House then it could not be clearer that the Obama administration is taking orders from the Chinese Communists.Masaluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06091060254297019114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-82988936636130319792009-09-12T21:43:05.253+08:002009-09-12T21:43:05.253+08:00When will Obama the Brave invite Ma to the White ...When will Obama the Brave invite Ma to the White House?Masaluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06091060254297019114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-75518114167133616952009-09-12T12:52:10.849+08:002009-09-12T12:52:10.849+08:00vin,
Sorry I didn't notice you posted ahead o...vin,<br /><br />Sorry I didn't notice you posted ahead of Anonymous :)<br /><br />In this era where one-sided American propaganda is over both the Dalai and Omar are Saints to their avid followers and who are we to judge?<br /><br />Do you consider the poor GI's who died in Nam war heroes or invaders?<br /><br />I'm just curious why vin is so bloody sure that I, Masalu, is Chinese/Taiwanese?<br /><br />Anyways my offer of a very cold beer still stands after all I'm not Omar and you're certainly not the Dalai:)<br /><br />Or are you?Masaluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06091060254297019114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-58706774648688643672009-09-12T02:49:15.905+08:002009-09-12T02:49:15.905+08:00Masalu:
If readin is OK with your changing his ar...Masalu:<br /><br />If readin is OK with your changing his argument to suit your purposes, then I'm OK with it, too. It's not my remit.<br /><br />No, you weren't just directing a question at Anonymous. Your subsequent focus on the Dalai Lama proves that you intended a ridiculous analogy.<br /><br />And the Dalai Lama with Mullah Omar? That alone merits a firm no to having a beer together. I leave it to you to figure out why.<br /><br />And that's too bad, because I would love to hear more about the Dorje Shugden stuff from someone with no agenda grounded in the degeneracy of nationalism. That DS stuff disturbs me, and I could be persuaded either way on it.<br /><br />Not by a sold-out, agenda-pushing nationalist, though. Not by a passive-aggressive who on the one hand dishes out "hysterical" and on the other hand adds a bunch of smile-signs and invites me for a beer. <br /><br />Do you guys have a playbook? If A doesn't work, try B; if B doesn't work, shift to C? Sorry to break the news to you but this is why China won't rise very far so long as people like you are at work: too many people already see through this shifting-argument crap and the numbers will only grow.<br /><br />Why are you undermining your country and your people? So many Chinese are so much more honest than you've been here, and they deserve much better than the representation you've given them here.<br /><br />I suggest that you buy a beer for Atop instead, and that you guys put your heads together in an effort to figure out why you failed here.vinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-26477816093463254112009-09-11T23:26:18.829+08:002009-09-11T23:26:18.829+08:00Why is it that President Obama, Secretary of State...Why is it that President Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and even Oprah needs approval from the Peoples Republic of China to visit Taiwan?Masaluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06091060254297019114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-10633445523370939442009-09-11T01:54:12.537+08:002009-09-11T01:54:12.537+08:00This should be preventable, especially with TIME m...This should be preventable, especially with TIME magazine. I will be writing you an email, Michael.China Debunkedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12517300765261742442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-48611267288688102282009-09-08T19:21:02.314+08:002009-09-08T19:21:02.314+08:00Mullah Mohammed Omar and the Dalai Lama both have ...Mullah Mohammed Omar and the Dalai Lama both have 2 Hats.<br /><br />Does it mean that these two VIP's should be accorded more importance and are assumed holier than those with only 1 hat like Pres. Obama and Pres. Ma? :)Masaluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06091060254297019114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-31526818962330025472009-09-08T14:11:14.689+08:002009-09-08T14:11:14.689+08:00vin, whether the Dalai Lama has 2 or 5 hats isn...vin, whether the Dalai Lama has 2 or 5 hats isn't the point . (Mullah Mohammed Omar also have 2 hats :)) As readin said the head of state of a country ( ex. Taiwan and USA) has the veto power whether to give a visa to a Mullah, Ayatollah, Gay Priest , President of Iran etc.<br /><br />My comments were directed at the question of Anonymous rather than your honest opinion which you are rightly entitled to believe as I am to mine.<br /><br />Whether your posts reveals a hysterical personality or not well we just leave it to the folks here to decide.<br /><br />However many would be cautious when dealing with a person who is not only King, but also a Pope who once walks with Mao, the CIA , and Shoko Asahara.<br /><br />I'm sure even Dorje Shugden will agree :)<br /><br />Maybe we can have some beer sometimes :)Masaluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06091060254297019114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-14214941533187514592009-09-08T10:07:31.807+08:002009-09-08T10:07:31.807+08:00Masalu and Atoq:
I certainly support your view th...Masalu and Atoq:<br /><br />I certainly support your view that the U.S. defames itself by not allowing Taiwan’s presidents to visit, but that doesn’t change that you’re equating a two-hat guy’s (spiritual leader + head of state) case with a one-hat guy’s (head of state only) case. Or that you’ve not only made this bad analogy, Masalu, but have insisted on its aptness and relevance. No amount of honesty on my part can repair this dishonesty.<br /><br />I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that I’m hysterical; people insisting on illogic brings me closer to yawning than to getting upset. Far be it from me, of course, to say you are projecting, though!<br /><br />If you guys want to insist on a bad analogy, then maybe we should just move past it. I mean, it seems we all agree that the US should be letting Taiwan’s presidents visit the White House, hold press conferences, etc. (though I do hope you did or will do your reading and will discover that no US laws forbid these options). I’m happy to agree with you that the US is doing nothing good whenever it toadies to the Chinese government’s childish, pre-modern efforts against other people’s self-determination.vinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-29842115280178079022009-09-07T22:33:47.318+08:002009-09-07T22:33:47.318+08:00I'm speculating a bit, but I believe the answe...I'm speculating a bit, but I believe the answer is:<br />When Ma or another president of Taiwan visits the U.S., a visa is required. As head of the executive branch I assume that the U.S. President has the ability to forbid the visa from being granted. He is able to use this veto power to negotiate the terms of the visit prior to the arrival of president Ma. <br /><br />As for why the U.S. President chooses to bar Ma from holding a press conference, I have to assume it is because he wants all Americans to be shamed and filled with self-hate. Well, I probably not really, but it sure feels that way. I suspect the real answer has more to do with the U.S. not being able to control spending and having become reliant on the cheap goods and cheap loans China provides, as well as the U.S. and S. Korea's inability to handle N. Korean threats.readinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-59194367013887128812009-09-07T21:19:22.763+08:002009-09-07T21:19:22.763+08:00"His Holiness the 14th the Dalai Lama Tenzin ..."His Holiness the 14th the Dalai Lama Tenzin Gyatso, is the head of state and spiritual leader of the Tibetan people."<br /> <br />GOVERNMENT OF TIBET IN EXILE: <br /> <br />HEAD OF STATE <br /> His Holiness the Dalai Lama <br /> <br /><br />To make someone happy I have to repeat 'head of state' captions twice twice :) <br /><br />His Holiness the Dalai Lama is in essence the King and also the Pope of Tibet .<br /><br />His unique Dual Supremo role sometimes makes some people confused and makes them think twice forever. <br /><br />Is the Head of State of Tibet coming to Taiwan? Then the second thinking comes in... No it is the Pope (Spiritual Leader) of Tibet who is going to Ciaolin!<br /><br />Well I guess the government of Taiwan did the right thing in welcoming the Head of State of Tibet which sadly the government of the 'Land of the Free and the (very) Brave ( and very proud)' was too afraid to accord both Pres. Chen and Pres. Ma in their now very famous but funny 'leash and gag' "tiptoe" transits in America.Masaluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06091060254297019114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-28275963659595516022009-09-07T15:55:51.775+08:002009-09-07T15:55:51.775+08:00hey vin , masalu is asking a fair and honest ques...hey vin , masalu is asking a fair and honest question and i don't find any inaccuracies in them.<br />why can't you just simply answer? do you always have to think twice ?Atoqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05272280650952587790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-17147944743060425842009-09-07T14:18:11.492+08:002009-09-07T14:18:11.492+08:00Some Americans are like their Uncle Sam . Washing...Some Americans are like their Uncle Sam . Washington would shout for human rights, freedom, democracy and then proudly lecture others.<br /><br />Then when asked some simple questions why a democratically elected President is persona non grata in Washington they go hysterical .:)<br /><br />Luckily not all Americans are like that, proud and superior sometimes to the point of being arrogant. :)Masaluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06091060254297019114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-2888004338799452282009-09-07T14:04:21.673+08:002009-09-07T14:04:21.673+08:00Vin,
After your very fiery temper tantrum display...Vin,<br /><br />After your very fiery temper tantrum display here it's sad that you still have no guts to answer a very simple question:)<br /><br /><br />Why is the 'Land of the Brave' so. so, so very afraid to welcome Pres. Ma to the White House?<br /><br />Please enlighten us !:)Masaluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06091060254297019114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-52341524326148141042009-09-07T11:05:49.087+08:002009-09-07T11:05:49.087+08:00Masalu:
You mean your question (inaccuracies asid...Masalu:<br /><br />You mean your question (inaccuracies aside) is not rhetorical? Sorry, but given that information on this stuff is so widely available on the Net, I think you should take responsibility and do your own reading rather than ask me to fill you in -- and think twice about all information you find. I'm sure you'll then find that your implied analogy is defective.vinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-151196271753139542009-09-07T00:17:14.236+08:002009-09-07T00:17:14.236+08:00vin , now after your torrential fireworks please ...vin , now after your torrential fireworks please give an honest answer :)Masaluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06091060254297019114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-45814489382821540632009-09-06T12:55:18.981+08:002009-09-06T12:55:18.981+08:00Masalu:
Your analogy between the Dalai Lama's...Masalu:<br /><br />Your analogy between the Dalai Lama's case and President Ma's, while potentially having some merit, falls completely flat when you fail to state and deal with the fact that the Dalai Lama, unlike Ma, is foremost a religious leader.<br /><br />Your question is a fine case of what I once found dismaying about so many Chinese (Taiwanese) arguments but now find simply laughable: promiscuous, emotion-driven analogizing with no pause to make sure the parallels drawn are apt. It strikes me as derelict -- as a serious default on human ability and possibility.<br /><br />I'm sure you're capable of better if you would only stop and think twice.vinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-3440830166500338722009-09-06T01:41:35.994+08:002009-09-06T01:41:35.994+08:00Why is Pres. Ma barred from visiting the White Hou...Why is Pres. Ma barred from visiting the White House and Capitol and strictly prohibited<br />from making a press conference in the 'Land of the Free'?Masaluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06091060254297019114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-52789780658756065002009-09-05T14:47:24.853+08:002009-09-05T14:47:24.853+08:00Why is it that the Dali Lama needs approval from t...Why is it that the Dali Lama needs approval from the President to visit Taiwan and why can the Dali Lama's schedule be dictated by the government?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com