tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post115849571003341769..comments2023-10-22T18:25:39.688+08:00Comments on The View from Taiwan: ESWN on Taiwan MarchesMichael Turtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1158756651538461432006-09-20T20:50:00.000+08:002006-09-20T20:50:00.000+08:00I should correct my last comment, since the "sha" ...I should correct my last comment, since the "sha" commenter didn't identify themselves as Sun Bin. I was probably confused by the fact that they linked to the same video that SB did to show how "violent" the pan-green supporters were. I think the rest of the comment still stands, and that some of those things are related to what SB said <A HREF="http://sun-bin.blogspot.com/2006/09/taiwan-protests.html#c115847888711476767" REL="nofollow" TITLE="'Taiwan protests'">on his own blog</A> and in comments to <A HREF="http://michaelturton.blogspot.com/2006/09/winners-losers-huge-crowds-turn-out.html#c115864987378901660" REL="nofollow" TITLE="'Winners, Losers, huge crowds turn out for Chen'">another post on this blog</A>.Tim Maddoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16943522529132663780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1158706190301472392006-09-20T06:49:00.000+08:002006-09-20T06:49:00.000+08:00Since Sun Bin pointed out the idiot who said "殺!殺!...Since Sun Bin pointed out the idiot who said "殺!殺!殺!," let <I>me</I> point out that I didn't see that part where he actually killed anybody. [/sarcasm]<BR/><BR/>I seemed to notice that instead of encouraging him, the people around him were trying to get him to cut the foolish crap. It's also entirely possible that he was imitating what he'd seen the previous night at the train station and/or was suffering from an overdose of BS-TV. Who knows?<BR/><BR/>If we could get some transitional justice going here and treat all cases equally (the guy who "violently" unplugged a TV cable <A HREF="http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2006/09/19/2003328281" REL="nofollow" TITLE="Taiwan Quick Take - Heckler suspects identified">has already been identified</A>, while <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZjOh4RlTuk" REL="nofollow" TITLE="Redshirts gone wild!">Lin Cheng-chieh</A> is still out setting off fireworks at redshirt rallies), <I>then</I> I'd love to have a talk with Sun Bin about those "violent" people who booed "poor" <I>CTI</I>.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://indiac.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow" TITLE="It's Not Democracy, It's A Conspiracy">Tim Maddog</A>Tim Maddoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16943522529132663780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1158682329109797542006-09-20T00:12:00.000+08:002006-09-20T00:12:00.000+08:00To Mr. anonymous above, What do you want me to exp...To Mr. anonymous above, What do you want me to explain? <BR/><BR/>First of all I can't find any news source about the Dong Chi Shen story you mentioned (care to provide a link?)<BR/><BR/>According to the blog you quoted below, the author wants US to brand Dong as a global terrorist, for what? He merely threatens to surround and protest, not bomb!<BR/><BR/>what does your quote prove? that Dong Chi Shen is biased? I already know that! <BR/><BR/>I'm not here to defend biased media, only that in this wrenching debate people need to maintain some level of civility, because after all they still have to live together in this beautiful island, or do each side plan to obliterate the opponent?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1158682132418253402006-09-20T00:08:00.000+08:002006-09-20T00:08:00.000+08:00Michael,It is simply sick and discusting to see yo...Michael,<BR/><BR/>It is simply sick and discusting to see you and the other pan-green activists sucking up to each other on this blog.<BR/><BR/>A view from Taiwan my ass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1158681377405724292006-09-19T23:56:00.000+08:002006-09-19T23:56:00.000+08:00Michael, you are right. You are not a media outle...Michael, you are right. You are not a media outlet, you don't have to be objective. What better way to learn about the far left and extreme right in US than going directly to the ACLU or the Christian coalition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1158677925495564672006-09-19T22:58:00.000+08:002006-09-19T22:58:00.000+08:00While fascinating and very entertaining I was hopi...<B>While fascinating and very entertaining I was hoping for more objective commentaries and analysis, </B><BR/><BR/>Analysis does not require non-partisanship to be insightful -- partisans often have deep insights into their own and their opponents views. I could cast the whole blog in some kind of academic language, but then not only would it be difficult to speak truth, it would also be unethical to appropriate the nuetral language of scholarship that way.<BR/><BR/>MichaelMichael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1158677475619609742006-09-19T22:51:00.000+08:002006-09-19T22:51:00.000+08:00The silence on this blog over what happened on the...<B>The silence on this blog over what happened on the 16th is deafening. I wonder why? </B><BR/><BR/>Are you on crack? I have a blog entry on it! Read more closely please.Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1158661517804231932006-09-19T18:25:00.000+08:002006-09-19T18:25:00.000+08:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3VGcEABFBoIs this ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3VGcEABFBo<BR/><BR/>Is this the democracy that you're talking about? If so, you can keep it.<BR/><BR/>"Sha! Sha! Sha!" Great slogan for reform.<BR/><BR/>I guess beating up reporters that you don't agree with is now a democratic freedom, eh?<BR/><BR/>The silence on this blog over what happened on the 16th is deafening. I wonder why? <BR/><BR/>I'm with ESWN on this one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1158651650369076242006-09-19T15:40:00.000+08:002006-09-19T15:40:00.000+08:00To Kai Xie & Co.,Before you continue on with all t...To Kai Xie & Co.,<BR/><BR/>Before you continue on with all these propaganda and rubbish, care to explain what's going on?<BR/><BR/>"In today's TV talk show, Dong Chi Shen (董智深), a news commentator from TVBS news station, threatened Dr. Stephen M. Yang that he would group an array of pan-blue's red army to surround the American Institute in Taiwan just because Mr. Dong believed that Dr. Stephen M. Yang, the director of the Taipei Office of the American Institute in Taiwan, has sent manipulated information about Shih's campaign back to Washington D.C. The US government has long been the strong supporter of Taiwan. Dong Chi Shen's provocation immediately put American's offshore institution in danger and thus harm the partnership between Taiwan and United States. Dong Chi Shen's provocation carelessly reflected PRC's(Chinese) intention to disintegrate the mutual trust between Taiwan and the United States. Dong should be put into the list of global terrorists if he intents to do so. How can President George W. Bush tolerate Dong's threat to American embassy?"<BR/><BR/>From:Focus on Taiwan<BR/>http://focusontaiwan.blogspot.com/2006/09/new-red-guard-movement-in-taipei-ii.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1158604404467298832006-09-19T02:33:00.000+08:002006-09-19T02:33:00.000+08:00Ladies and Gentlemen, the lynching mob!http://www....Ladies and Gentlemen, the lynching mob!<BR/><BR/>http://www.wretch.cc/blog/rextem&article_id=4133517<BR/><BR/>This must be very pro-democracy according to Kai Xie's definition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1158602267639672032006-09-19T01:57:00.000+08:002006-09-19T01:57:00.000+08:00nice professor job you have while you are not forc...nice professor job you have while you are not forced to worry about inventory or lay-off. For 6 years, you think A-bian contributed any to improve people's life/economy in Taiwan? Bian's policies made no imporvement to the society. Oh, I forgot, he doesn't have to worry about lay-off or bank debt, either. Right?! Anyway, a 2nd home in US is a good back-up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1158601878886360362006-09-19T01:51:00.000+08:002006-09-19T01:51:00.000+08:00I totally agree with Kai Xie. Half hakka & taiwan...I totally agree with Kai Xie. Half hakka & taiwanese, shoud I cut myself into half and leave the Taiwanese 1/2 in Taiwan and exile the Hakka 1/2 abroad? Since Green only consider Hoklos their country people?<BR/>Got no political lingo, just a musician with lots of love for Taiwan...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1158547151529470862006-09-18T10:39:00.000+08:002006-09-18T10:39:00.000+08:00Well, I don't necessary equates Pro CSB/DPP to pro...Well, I don't necessary equates Pro CSB/DPP to pro-democracy, it's like saying Pro Iraq-war equates with american patriotism. It's a misleading and flawed logic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1158525615673265122006-09-18T04:40:00.000+08:002006-09-18T04:40:00.000+08:00Why yes, we're partisan pro-democracy over here at...Why yes, we're partisan pro-democracy over here at the View. The wonder is that everyone does not have this bias. And people who are "polarized" by a pro-democracy stance have serious problems, Kai xie.<BR/><BR/>MichaelMichael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1158516744933220052006-09-18T02:12:00.000+08:002006-09-18T02:12:00.000+08:00I have been a reader of both ESWN and this blog fo...I have been a reader of both ESWN and this blog for last three months. Both blogs frequently employ polarizing languages to support their partisan stands. While fascinating and very entertaining I was hoping for more objective commentaries and analysis, the political debate in Taiwanese society doesn't have to turn into Rush Limbaugh vs. Al Franken style.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com