tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post114727287239596538..comments2023-10-22T18:25:39.688+08:00Comments on The View from Taiwan: Nelson Report: NUC, Iran, ChenMichael Turtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1147455265485511652006-05-13T01:34:00.000+08:002006-05-13T01:34:00.000+08:00"Did u know that Libyan dictator Quadahfi actually..."Did u know that Libyan dictator Quadahfi actually received brief military training in Taiwan during the 1950s. He attended the "foreign friendship seminar"(遠朋班)of the"Political Warfare Academy"(政戰學校). Fellow dictator alumnus of the "foreign friendship seminar" includes Immanuel Noriega and Saddam Hussein. (Wonder where they learn to be dictators, huh?)"<BR/><BR/>1950!? Ask KMT, since they are in power back in those years!!<BR/><BR/><BR/>Look at this....<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMJcdx5oZj4<BR/><BR/>See how they are trained not to be afraid of pain. Perfect for this kind of ROC people to crush into a tall building and blow it up along with these kind of people in it.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Pain is a good thing. It makes one value life around them. It also makes one actually think for once in their life with common sense!!<BR/><BR/>Iron_Jackal_TWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1147371151678769242006-05-12T02:12:00.000+08:002006-05-12T02:12:00.000+08:00Michael:Did u know that Libyan dictator Quadahfi a...Michael:<BR/>Did u know that Libyan dictator Quadahfi actually received brief military training in Taiwan during the 1950s. He attended the "foreign friendship seminar"(遠朋班)of the"Political Warfare Academy"(政戰學校). Fellow dictator alumnus of the "foreign friendship seminar" includes Immanuel Noriega and Saddam Hussein. (Wonder where they learn to be dictators, huh?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1147335246563976302006-05-11T16:14:00.000+08:002006-05-11T16:14:00.000+08:00Go ahead.... keep deleting (my war with homo will ...Go ahead.... keep deleting (my war with homo will not end)....<BR/><BR/>I will say what's on my mind.<BR/><BR/>"I actually felt appreciative when President Chen decided not to swallow US's insult but follow his own course. After 6 years of "playing S.O.T of pan-blue section,"(S.O.T= son of turtle) he finally came to some sense and at least be able to display some dignity of humenbeing."<BR/><BR/>So, when some low-life shit dare you to jump over a cliff to prove you are a man, you do it??<BR/><BR/>I tell you what a real Taiwanese man would do. He beats up that low-life shit and dump his body over the cliff because he is stronger and smarter than all of those low-life motherfuckers.<BR/><BR/>US and Pro-Taiwan bond must be strengthen at all cost not the other way around!!<BR/><BR/>Another word, find the correct places to strenghen your power base instead of cutting us, Taiwanese, off at our knee every goddamn time we are about to take off.<BR/><BR/>Iron_Jackal_TWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1147332429967688352006-05-11T15:27:00.000+08:002006-05-11T15:27:00.000+08:00iron, please find another venue for this stuff. Mi...iron, please find another venue for this stuff. <BR/><BR/>MichaelMichael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1147332034391327472006-05-11T15:20:00.000+08:002006-05-11T15:20:00.000+08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1147324002048551142006-05-11T13:06:00.000+08:002006-05-11T13:06:00.000+08:00But the key issue was that Chen made that decision...<B>But the key issue was that Chen made that decision all by himself. According to people I know in MOFA, he never consulted his foreign policy people. And he never consulted the US.</B><BR/><BR/>This is indeed the biggest problem President Chen has. IMO one of the ingredients of democracy is a proper spread and/or discussion of an idea before the final decision is made. President Chen's behavior pattern --- whatever decision I made you guys just follow --- of acting on impulse without consulting anyone is anti-democratic in nature. <BR/><BR/>"That is both common courtesy and <B>wise policy</B>."<BR/><BR/>You are not kidding, are you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1147308659273894272006-05-11T08:50:00.000+08:002006-05-11T08:50:00.000+08:00Let me see if I get this right; no one gives a dam...<B><BR/>Let me see if I get this right; no one gives a damn about the ROC, but if we scrap the NUC Guidelines, that are outdated, not used,and without a budget, all hell breaks loose and the State Department tells us to sit in the corner like bad boys. Am I missing something here?</B><BR/><BR/>Nope. But the key issue was that Chen made that decision all by himself. According to people I know in MOFA, he never consulted his foreign policy people. And he never consulted the US.<BR/><BR/>It's OK to abolish the NUC. It is not OK to make moves that people outside Taiwan, who do not understand Taiwan, might get upset at.<BR/><BR/>Sure, the US way overreacted. But Chen could have prevented any reaction at all by consulting his partner -- by treating the US as a valued friend and ally, whom it would be prudent and fair to make happy.<BR/><BR/>The US is Taiwan's most important friend. Taiwan should be willing to go to great lengths to make certain it is not taken by surprise. That is both common courtesy and wise policy.<BR/><BR/>MichaelMichael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1147303622034862612006-05-11T07:27:00.000+08:002006-05-11T07:27:00.000+08:00I am pro-green (dark-green for sure) but I also co...I am pro-green (dark-green for sure) but I also consider that what US did to President Chen is an insult -- as you suggested what blue camp would think and advocate. To me it's not only a personal insult to Chen but also an insult to all Taiwanese people.<BR/><BR/>I actually felt appreciative when President Chen decided not to swallow US's insult but follow his own course. After 6 years of "playing S.O.T of pan-blue section,"(S.O.T= son of turtle) he finally came to some sense and at least be able to display some dignity of humenbeing. <BR/><BR/>Certainly this doesn't mean that he will be able to keep that dignity when he faces pan-blue back home. But, at least, IMO, better than "playing S.O.T straight to retirement in 2008." It also ignites some spark of hope that he might be able to handle pan-blue like a green-supported President should have been handling. <BR/><BR/>Will Taiwan-US relationship go sour because of his action? I dont' think so. US has her own interests on Taiwan (especially the strategic role of having an ally on guarding china). Besides, there isn't much room for it to go even worse anyway... <BR/><BR/>:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1147277308955905862006-05-11T00:08:00.000+08:002006-05-11T00:08:00.000+08:00Observation #2We all know that many of the State D...Observation #2<BR/><BR/>We all know that many of the State Department's problems are of its own making, misinformation, and ineptitude.<BR/><BR/>This reminds me of the joke from Fiddler on the Roof.<BR/><BR/>A rich Jewish person always gives Isaac the Beggar 20 rubles when he passes him on Friday. <BR/>This week as he passes him, he gives him nothing, and says "Sorry Isaac, but I have had a bad week business-wise."<BR/>Isaac replies: "Just because you had a bad week, am I supposed to suffer?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1147276962975618612006-05-11T00:02:00.000+08:002006-05-11T00:02:00.000+08:00Michael,Let me see if I get this right; no one giv...Michael,<BR/><BR/>Let me see if I get this right; no one gives a damn about the ROC, but if we scrap the NUC Guidelines, that are outdated, not used,and without a budget, all hell breaks loose and the State Department tells us to sit in the corner like bad boys. Am I missing something here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com