tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post112606088025784117..comments2023-10-22T18:25:39.688+08:00Comments on The View from Taiwan: The Lawyer Examination CaseMichael Turtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1126188750928623252005-09-08T22:12:00.000+08:002005-09-08T22:12:00.000+08:00(crickets chirping)(considers own statement about ...(crickets chirping)<BR/><BR/>(considers own statement about "absence of evidence" and checks TOS' blog)<BR/><BR/>Oh, I see. TOS is busy <A HREF="http://taiwansotherside.blogspot.com/2005/09/kmt-other-independence-party.html" REL="nofollow" TITLE="Tastes just like chicken [shit]!">throwing logic</A> <A HREF="http://taiwansotherside.blogspot.com/2005/09/kaohsiung-riots-and-dpp-distraction.html" REL="nofollow" TITLE="Hey, you! In the mirror! Yeah, you!">out the window</A> and doing <A HREF="http://www.english.vt.edu/~siegle/Comp/Cut-Ups/cut-ups.html" REL="nofollow" TITLE="Burroughs said ''Perhaps one of ten works out...''">cut-ups</A> to reply.<BR/><BR/>Check out those <A HREF="http://taiwansotherside.blogspot.com/2005/09/kaohsiung-riots-and-dpp-distraction.html" REL="nofollow" TITLE="She-ra?">multiple references</A> (by TOS) to Chen Chu (陳菊) as "the girl." Good stuff... NOT!<BR/><BR/>Q: How many different ways can TOS spell "Chen Shui-bian" (within 24 hours!)?<BR/>A: 200 billion (give or take a few billion)<BR/><BR/>Only 8 posts under his belt, and TOS is already getting rather careless. Tsk, tsk!<BR/><BR/>And Wayne... But the <I>China Post</I> usually protests <I>anything</I> having to do with Chen Shui-bian! Why not this time? I'm truly curious about the reason(s). (Disclaimer: The <I>China Post</I>'s own search function wasn't working when I was digging for the info, but a search of <I>Google News</I> also <A HREF="http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=%22chen+shui-bian%22+exam+OR+examination+source%3Achina_post" REL="nofollow" TITLE="searched for [''chen shui-bian'' exam OR examination source(colon)china_post]">failed</A> to show any relevant results from that publication.)Tim Maddoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16943522529132663780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1126186562436660542005-09-08T21:36:00.000+08:002005-09-08T21:36:00.000+08:00TOS also forgets that the pro-KMT China Post didn'...<I>TOS also forgets that the pro-KMT China Post didn't report on this story. Why?</I><BR/><BR/>Because there's a vast disconnect between what's reported in the English-language media and the Chinese-language media?<BR/><BR/>/haven't touched a Taipei Times or China Post in months.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1126130704266272032005-09-08T06:05:00.000+08:002005-09-08T06:05:00.000+08:00What other (English) services? This issue was buri...<I>What other (English) services? This issue was buried in the English press. There were NO articles other than an AP article in Taiwan News as of Sunday.</I><BR/><BR/>Yes, other than an international news service article that appeared in Taiwan News in English, there were no articles.[roll eyes]<BR/><BR/>Wait...an <I>international</I> news article...appearing in a <I>local English paper</I>.<BR/><BR/>TOS has conveniently forgotten that on the 29th the Taipei Times had a huge spread on the far more critical case of the Kaohsiung Worker Riot -- which is why quite a lot of stuff was crowded off its pages. TOS also forgets that the pro-KMT China Post didn't report on this story. Why? <BR/><BR/>I'll let the reader figure out which is more important: a key case of worker violence that highlights an ongoing set of problems, or an isolated case of stupidity on a test. The reason the local English press, pro- and anti- authoritarian both, failed to pick up this story is because (1) it had already been picked up by an international news service and reported in the local English and Chinese press and (2) there were much bigger stories going on.<BR/><BR/>Hey, none of us blogged on the massive crime investigation in Tainan that brought in indictments against 50 politicians down there, 2 KMT and a host of independents. I guess we all love independents and the KMT...logic like silence = support is really smart. No wonder TOS supports the KMT.<BR/><BR/>MichaelMichael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1126129489171381762005-09-08T05:44:00.000+08:002005-09-08T05:44:00.000+08:00TOS, a few points of disagreement back at you:1) M...TOS, a few points of disagreement back at you:<BR/><BR/>1) Michael didn't say "English" services. Putting (parenthetical) words in his mouth doesn't help your argument any.<BR/><BR/>2) <A HREF="http://www.fallacyfiles.org/ignorant.html" REL="nofollow" TITLE="Argumentum ad Ignorantiam">Absence of evidence</A> is not evidence of absence. Even if your conclusions are correct, your reasoning is not.<BR/><BR/>3) I considered commenting on your post, but I didn't want to do so without further knowledge of the facts. That is always a good policy. Your argument about lack of comments, however, is both a <A HREF="http://www.fallacyfiles.org/redherrf.html" REL="nofollow" TITLE="Can't throw a Maddog off the scent!">red herring</A> and a <A HREF="http://www.fallacyfiles.org/strawman.html" REL="nofollow" TITLE="easier to defeat than a flesh-and-blood opponent">straw man</A>. Lack of response to valid criticism doesn't equal "silence of guilt." Even if you're right, don't hold your breath waiting for all pan-green supporters to roll over and surrender to your ideas of a better Taiwan.<BR/><BR/>4) A fuck-up which is set right isn't the same thing as 5 decades of unrestrained policy -- even if it is pointed out by the opposition.<BR/><BR/>Add #4 to Michael's reminders for a total of 200,000,000,001. [hyperbole] ;-)<BR/><BR/>"Touché!" "¡Olé!" even.Tim Maddoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16943522529132663780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1126107280495535552005-09-07T23:34:00.000+08:002005-09-07T23:34:00.000+08:00Sorry, messed up the link:T.O.S.'s First (sort of)...Sorry, messed up the link:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://taiwansotherside.blogspot.com/2005/08/toss-first-sort-of-scoop.html" REL="nofollow">T.O.S.'s First (sort of) Scoop!</A>Taiwan's Other Sidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09502176430536810488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1126107083443250252005-09-07T23:31:00.000+08:002005-09-07T23:31:00.000+08:00that section as a vestige of the old authoritarian...<I> that section as a vestige of the old authoritarian regime, where lawyers were vetted for ideological and political safety.....</I> <BR/><BR/>Amazing! Bravo! I love the part where you take the foul-up of the supposedly democracy-loving DPP and turn that into an oppourtintiy to remind us all of authoritarianism - for the 200 billionth time.<BR/><BR/>A few points of disagreement: <BR/><BR/>What other (English) services? This issue was buried in the English press. There were NO articles other than an AP article in Taiwan News as of Sunday. <BR/><BR/>Chen Shui Bian gave a speech on this on Sunday morning - where is the supposed KMT spin? The information was there in Chinese, but the pro-green Taipei Times and Taiwan News kept their mouths shut because the DPP kept its mouth shut - it had been caught red handed. Go democracy go!<BR/><BR/>I posted on this on Sunday. Strangely, there were no comments, a first for my blog. Is that the silence of guilt I hear?<BR/><BR/>http://taiwansotherside.blogspot.com/2005/08/toss-first-sort-of-scoop.htmlTaiwan's Other Sidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09502176430536810488noreply@blogger.com