tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post805602075480557257..comments2023-10-22T18:25:39.688+08:00Comments on The View from Taiwan: Chu goes there?Michael Turtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-23046621360232802552015-05-08T18:27:04.344+08:002015-05-08T18:27:04.344+08:00Not me. because I would never think of Chu as a pe...Not me. because I would never think of Chu as a person whose shape was too slippery to pin down.Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-81310394320360424602015-05-08T17:35:40.438+08:002015-05-08T17:35:40.438+08:00You are not referring to "Who Goes There"...You are not referring to "Who Goes There", the obscure science fiction by a certain niche magazine editor who published himself under a pseudonym about shapeshifting assimilator monsters, are you? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-44253106477965514482015-05-08T15:47:48.734+08:002015-05-08T15:47:48.734+08:00.
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I will never understand how people coin an a....<br />.<br />.<br />I will never understand how people coin an agreement to disagree as a "consensus". It's Orwellian double-speak <br /><br />Even if you do believe that the so-called 1992 Consensus happens, it actually means nothing. Why this is not stated more often is a puzzlement to moi.<br /><br />.<br />.<br />. STOP Manoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-17742418728302199352015-05-08T12:54:50.785+08:002015-05-08T12:54:50.785+08:00(1) raise minimum wage to $20 to help restore US c...<i> (1) raise minimum wage to $20 to help restore US consumption so we can help out our friends by importing their goods -- of course they seek other markets since our elites have destroyed our middle class; (2) institute universal health insurance; and (3) terminate our stupid, wasteful, fossil fuel driven wars in the Middle East. </i><br />The wisdom of the Middle East wars is certainly a wide open question. Clearly we shouldn't have invaded Iraq.<br /><br />However your suggestion that we can grow the economy by interfering with people's ability to find employment or by removing the motives for keeping health costs down is even more suspect. That's the kind of something-for-nothing thinking that has led us down the path of shorter growth spurts followed by ever deeper and longer debt fueled recessions.<br /><br />If we want to grow the economy we have to put our government spending into productivity-increasing projects - roads, railroads, basic R&D, law and order (so our cities don't get burned down), education, etc.. What's left should be used to pay down the debt or be left in the hands of the taxpayers so they can invest. <br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11022381054458476229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-41502801674114447732015-05-08T10:31:51.414+08:002015-05-08T10:31:51.414+08:00Thanks!
Thanks!<br />Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-22231167347518178272015-05-07T22:16:37.179+08:002015-05-07T22:16:37.179+08:00I work in a library and have access to Asian Wall ...I work in a library and have access to Asian Wall Street Journal and The Straits Times through our subscription databases. The Asian Wall Street Journal article I quoted from was written by Russell Flannery. It is dated August 9-15, 1999. <br /><br />The Straits Times article I quoted from was written by Ching Cheong. It is dated August 10, 1999. <br /><br />I found another article from The Straits Times (also written by Ching Cheong) dated August 25, 1999. Here is a quote: "Mr Qian also offered Taiwan another chance to return to the 1992 consensus on "one China", by telling the group that Beijing still expected Mr Koo Chen-fu, Taiwan's top negotiator with the mainland, to provide a "genuine" explanation.<br />This implied that Mr Koo was under pressure not to deviate from Mr Lee's position when he made his initial reply, which was rejected two hours after it was tendered.<br />Beijing saw the 1992 consensus as the basis for dialogue between the two sides."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-48803806544862253762015-05-07T22:11:12.144+08:002015-05-07T22:11:12.144+08:00Haha, love the screenshot from China. That's p...Haha, love the screenshot from China. That's priceless. Chu is pretty much gone after this.TaiwanJunkienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-69314623220570267902015-05-07T21:56:19.044+08:002015-05-07T21:56:19.044+08:00I think the MAC's Andrew Hsia has sealed Chu&#...I think the MAC's Andrew Hsia has sealed Chu's fate by saying that Chu has gone where the KMT-led government has not. <br /><br /><br />http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2015/05/07/2003617668Tommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13552370490869601403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-35447389157242029822015-05-07T12:46:55.310+08:002015-05-07T12:46:55.310+08:00To some, those red polka dot balls are "art.&...<i>To some, those red polka dot balls are "art." I must be getting old..</i><br /><br />Yes, you are a bit of a rube not to appreciate the evocative nature of the exhibit. To me, they speak of movement while sitting still, family joy and laughter in the midst of betrayal. People, vegetables, phatoms, prehistorical animals - all struggling in a rich mosaic.<br /><br />Seriously! Doesn't it remind you of MarioKart? That's art!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11022381054458476229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-79208653081402824702015-05-07T10:01:36.392+08:002015-05-07T10:01:36.392+08:00One problem Chu faces, I suspect, is that he's...One problem Chu faces, I suspect, is that he's a novice at the convoluted KMT rhetoric which his predecessor had mastered during several decades of explaining and spouting cross-strait policy statements. So Chu's enthusiasm for advancing the party line is not matched by adeptness in keeping everyone soothed and asleep about where this is heading. So he says too much and crosses invisible lines, showing too much passion and not enough restraint. He's got a tiger by the tail. But whatever the challenges rhetorically, the policies are potentially catastrophic and will have to be pulled back if common sense prevails.Julianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10544888878269982586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-32430955884646595922015-05-07T10:01:33.922+08:002015-05-07T10:01:33.922+08:00http://old.npf.org.tw/PUBLICATION/NS/091/NS-B-091-...<b>http://old.npf.org.tw/PUBLICATION/NS/091/NS-B-091-023e.htm</b><br /><br />Thanks, very useful. An old piece from 2002 from Su Chi! I'll pull this into a nice post tonight.<br /><br />Michael<br />Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-55275301706112977192015-05-07T09:57:23.689+08:002015-05-07T09:57:23.689+08:00Here is some info with refs.
http://old.npf.org....Here is some info with refs. <br /><br />http://old.npf.org.tw/PUBLICATION/NS/091/NS-B-091-023e.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-23161226582654070652015-05-07T09:51:45.502+08:002015-05-07T09:51:45.502+08:00Anyone have access to a library with copies of new...Anyone have access to a library with copies of newspapers from 1992? I thought Lee had first rejected that there was any type of consensus, then he affirmed it in the 2000 election, before he denied it again. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-58485663291998775112015-05-07T08:26:50.025+08:002015-05-07T08:26:50.025+08:00Anon, are both of those 1992 Consensus quotes from...Anon, are both of those 1992 Consensus quotes from the same writer? The latter is collected in his 2001 book. <br /><br />Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-67311059981620890482015-05-07T08:19:06.207+08:002015-05-07T08:19:06.207+08:00Thanks -- AWSJ is behind a paywall, so cant be see...Thanks -- AWSJ is behind a paywall, so cant be seen.<br /><br />MichaelMichael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-76325889496560033412015-05-07T01:32:45.481+08:002015-05-07T01:32:45.481+08:00I think neither Chu nor China expected the reactio...I think neither Chu nor China expected the reaction to this meeting to be as negative as it has been. Between the furor over that Taishang woman's statement and the 同屬一中 moment, this has proven to be fairly damaging for Chu individually and the KMT generally. The insistence on AP retracting that story (even though how else would one interpret 同屬一中?) and the CCP lashing out at scholars who were critical of the summit shows panic on the part of the KMT/China but will only make things worse for their cause.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-84167147925207419552015-05-06T23:05:53.012+08:002015-05-06T23:05:53.012+08:00I found this quote from an August 1999 issue of Th...I found this quote from an August 1999 issue of The Straits Times: "Following tremendous pressure from the US, the Mainland Affairs Council (MAC), Taipei's decision-making body on mainland affairs, had issued a much toned-down explanatory memorandum.<br />It said that Taipei remained committed to the 1992 consensus reached with Beijing on "one China" with different definition."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-35565195587926052872015-05-06T22:41:33.992+08:002015-05-06T22:41:33.992+08:00I found this quote from an August 1999 issue of As...I found this quote from an August 1999 issue of Asian Wall Street Journal: "In addition, concerns about deteriorating relations between Taiwan and China contributed to a 2.5 percent drop in the Hang Seng Index on August 5. Talks between the two countries have been at an impasse following the rejection by Beijing of a letter sent by Taipei in late July 1999 that sought to resume dialog on the basis of a key 1992 consensus in which the two “agreed to disagree” regarding their differing definitions of “one China.”"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com