tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post5813282911245473111..comments2023-10-22T18:25:39.688+08:00Comments on The View from Taiwan: BREAKING: NEXT magazine says Ma Administration using security forces to spy on TsaiMichael Turtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-90807499736641986762011-12-31T09:20:02.151+08:002011-12-31T09:20:02.151+08:00I think the problem is that, real or not, there is...I think the problem is that, real or not, there is enough of a credibility problem with Next that it is easy to brush the story off. Then there is the stupid decision of the Tsai campaign to stir up the Fubon thing. Consequently, it is too easy for the Ma campaign to say it is just a case of negative campaigning.Tommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13552370490869601403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-51555044934406126802011-12-31T06:28:44.557+08:002011-12-31T06:28:44.557+08:00There are couple of sources say that it's real...There are couple of sources say that it's real. They said that it was revealed by high level of the investigation bureau, most probably due to infighting:<br /><br /><a href="http://blackrain.skycity.cc/2011/12/31/11369.html" rel="nofollow">影音:媒體人黃敬平指出調查局監控是真的</a>Taiwan Echohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17018124148446093746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-65144393767517578662011-12-31T01:30:42.833+08:002011-12-31T01:30:42.833+08:00Next Magazine is, to say the least, not exactly a ...Next Magazine is, to say the least, not exactly a credible source. We'll have to wait and see if anything actually comes out of this.Gilman Grundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06607416440240634159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-25992352741004493172011-12-30T19:16:00.925+08:002011-12-30T19:16:00.925+08:00Message for DPP:
Let the media take this for now ...Message for DPP:<br /><br />Let the media take this for now and finish the campaign showing why Taiwanese people are (a) not better off after 4 years of Ma (b) Why Ma's policies are detrimental to Taiwanese sovereignty and economic sustainability (c) Why the KMTs numbers mean squat to average Taiwanese (d) Why the DPP approach is the better vision for all Taiwanese in the long term. <br /><br />These issues should take center stage to bring the election back to the dinner table and away from the tabloids. It is hard for people to get cynical about bread and butter issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-26445886882198680222011-12-30T10:02:51.450+08:002011-12-30T10:02:51.450+08:00Yes, NEXT loves to dig up dirt, the problem is tha...Yes, NEXT loves to dig up dirt, the problem is that often they get shit rather than dirt. But in this case I think there is sufficient evidence to support their claims.Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-89529894097045788542011-12-30T08:35:39.997+08:002011-12-30T08:35:39.997+08:00Andrew:【NEXT magazine is not really anti-KMT; it&#...Andrew:【NEXT magazine is not really anti-KMT; it's just pro-DIRT】<br /><br />The DIRT is now the most powerful political party in Taiwan ... :)Taiwan Echohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17018124148446093746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-61030200886319395022011-12-29T22:16:37.744+08:002011-12-29T22:16:37.744+08:00This is a bunch of BS fom DPP. Tsai is trailing in...This is a bunch of BS fom DPP. Tsai is trailing in all polls, DPP is getting desparate. Therefore, it is inventing another rumor to smear KMT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-36751111558615846342011-12-29T17:23:46.511+08:002011-12-29T17:23:46.511+08:00NEXT magazine is not really anti-KMT; it's jus...NEXT magazine is not really anti-KMT; it's just pro-DIRT and the KMT just has more of it. I'm sure somebody's secretary is gonna do some time over this.Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-9215049159514104222011-12-29T16:04:54.865+08:002011-12-29T16:04:54.865+08:00Ma Ying-jeou has managed to conduct a dirtiest cam...Ma Ying-jeou has managed to conduct a dirtiest campaign in the presidential election history of Taiwan. First the government orchestrated a double-forgery to frame Tsai, now the government send spies to collect Tsai's info.Taiwan Echohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17018124148446093746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-5924580340851201402011-12-29T15:57:13.269+08:002011-12-29T15:57:13.269+08:00NJ said: NEXT magazine seems anti-KMT for this ele...NJ said: NEXT magazine seems anti-KMT for this election.<br /><br />I get more of a anti-Ma feeling than anti-KMT. Hasn't he made prodigious enemies inside and outside his party?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-47165051788750194032011-12-29T15:44:10.893+08:002011-12-29T15:44:10.893+08:00Steve,
As of right now, I agree with you that it&#...Steve,<br />As of right now, I agree with you that it's a 2/3%er. But if more comes out then it's much bigger.<br />But some news organization has to dig it up. There's still time, but not much.grg1951https://www.blogger.com/profile/00275364436996825329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-65724713602467766822011-12-29T13:23:35.554+08:002011-12-29T13:23:35.554+08:00NEXT magazine seems anti-KMT for this election.NEXT magazine seems anti-KMT for this election.NJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14269599801980558219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-91134883026606446742011-12-29T13:16:09.773+08:002011-12-29T13:16:09.773+08:00As mentioned widely in Taiwanese TV media: there w...As mentioned widely in Taiwanese TV media: there was NO denial by the security forces that the information was collected, only that it was shown to the president. This is Watergate, only Ma Ying-jeou has a cow hide for a face and doesn't give a shit that he just had his hand in the cookie jar and it's rotten as shit.G Lownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-49241970212308142962011-12-29T12:52:41.956+08:002011-12-29T12:52:41.956+08:00In any other country, I would be inclined to think...In any other country, I would be inclined to think this would do damage to Ma. In Taiwan...?Tommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13552370490869601403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-39024297037250575942011-12-29T12:43:11.954+08:002011-12-29T12:43:11.954+08:00This is a 2-3% story. What I mean by that is it wi...This is a 2-3% story. What I mean by that is it will swing that small percentage towards Tsai, no more and no less. These happen frequently in election cycles and have pretty predictable effects, regardless of country. <br /><br />The effect normally doesn't last beyond a certain time period but this one is close enough to the election that it should still carry some voters. As such, a definite blunder by the Ma campaign. Recovery time is getting very short and this election is tight.Stevehttp://pacificrimshots.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1198632167862406962011-12-29T12:31:59.083+08:002011-12-29T12:31:59.083+08:00Your tax dollars at work!Your tax dollars at work!John Scottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-69249608069695372112011-12-29T11:40:33.189+08:002011-12-29T11:40:33.189+08:00At the very least, do you think anyone is bothered...At the very least, do you think anyone is bothered by the fact that taxes which probably pay the salaries of these people are being used for Ma's personal reasons? If true, I would think it would be a good reason to investigate illegal use of government resources.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-77706312440696639342011-12-29T11:05:17.288+08:002011-12-29T11:05:17.288+08:00Anyone surprised?
If this is in the media (though...Anyone surprised?<br /><br />If this is in the media (though its a magazine) I wonder how this will impact Ma's chances.Grantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-61477771404885126282011-12-29T10:26:11.711+08:002011-12-29T10:26:11.711+08:00"Anyone who has followed the KMT's use of..."Anyone who has followed the KMT's use of the security agencies throughout the nation's history will not be surprised at this report...."<br /><br />Exactly. That's why I really doubt how much "negative" effect this is going to have to KMT's campaign. Hardly a surprise, to everyone.Hanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02073275169438559834noreply@blogger.com