tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post4862908895287065352..comments2023-10-22T18:25:39.688+08:00Comments on The View from Taiwan: Ma Gov't Revives ROC Claim to ChinaMichael Turtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-77895325260225866182010-10-05T20:45:56.714+08:002010-10-05T20:45:56.714+08:00Lee Teng-hui has been more consistent: "of co...<b>Lee Teng-hui has been more consistent: "of course Diaoyutai is Japanese"...</b> <br /><br />Right. And he kept to himself, ”… as inalienably Japanese as Taiwan has been since the Imperial Rescript of April 1st(*), 1945 that endowed full Japanese citizenship, which included electoral and eligibility rights at both chambers of the Diet, while it incorporated the island under the Meiji Constitution.”<br /><br />The 228 victims and their relatives are neither slaves, nor running dogs, nor second rate subjects of, but natural citizens of Japan. <br /><br />When one takes into account that the ROC passport forced on the Formosans in 1946 is a forged document that no custom officer should accept, under what travel documents issued by which authority should the Japanese, whose newly US-minted government abandoned on April 28, 1952, be allowed to cross borders?<br /><br />An answer, anybody?<br /><br />(*) No, not a joke. The Japanese fiscal year starts on that day.jerome in valsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-40974668787837607592010-10-05T17:43:51.994+08:002010-10-05T17:43:51.994+08:00Chen Shui-bian also claimed Diaoyutai as a part of...Chen Shui-bian also claimed Diaoyutai as a part of the ROC. Tsai Ing-wen is now saying that Diaoyutai belongs to Taiwan (probably to avoid upsetting the independence wing at the same time as leaving open the possibility of repairing relations with Beijing).<br /><br />Lee Teng-hui has been more consistent: "of course Diaoyutai is Japanese"...Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-46857365341677795122010-10-05T10:40:10.242+08:002010-10-05T10:40:10.242+08:00FYI: It appears that Google Earth has updated thei...FYI: It appears that Google Earth has updated their sat coverage of this area. The images now are quite amazing and worth a look. There is even Google Street views on some of the islands close to Taiwan. (plus you can see the underwater terrain much better now).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-15896696382869386102010-10-05T10:21:07.008+08:002010-10-05T10:21:07.008+08:00.
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"Why waste political capital and nation....<br />.<br />.<br />"Why waste political capital and national prestige so carelessly?"<br /><br />As I mentioned above, I would argue that the KMT would like to sabotage any credibility that Taiwan currently has with the international community.<br />.<br />.<br />.skiingkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05381159852660053893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-83795992902854887312010-10-05T09:54:34.694+08:002010-10-05T09:54:34.694+08:00CHINA sees itself as dominating HEGEMON in Asia so...CHINA sees itself as dominating HEGEMON in Asia soon to be the World, not just a US Partner or just another Asian regional power.<br />"Rising China" is desirous of possessing "warm water" Asia-Pacific ports in support of its current, and future, Military and Economic policies espec as an anticipated "post-US"? Regional, Global Superpower. Perhaps more importantly, and whether Beijing admits it or not, CHINA isn't taking "no" for an answer from any of the sovereign states along the "First Island Chain" from Japan to Indonesia. JAPAN, on its part, desires to develop indigenous Nuclear Weapons bothas hedge agz China and as part of Japan-specific, US-requested requirements to support geopolitical security in East-North Asia, to include Regional GMD-TMD. China fears a STRONG, ASSERTIVE, NUCLEAR-ARMED JAPAN AS A COMPETITOR AND THREAT TO ITS SELF-PERCEIVED MANIFEST DESTINY, and that any failure on China's part to overcome the geophyical and geopolitical barriers of the "First Island Chain" means CHINA WILL NOT BE A TRUE GLOBAL SUPERPOWER NOR A "POST-US" GLOBAL LEADER, BUT MUST BE CONTENT WITH REMAINING A STRONG REGIONAL POWER IN LESSOR POSITION TO THE US + POSSIBLY OTHER MAJOR STATES. China is correct in this regard - what it cannot successfully achieve DIPLOMATICALLY via the barriers or constraints of "First Island Chain", IT MAY ATTEMPT TO ACHIEVE VIA CONVENTIONAL, NUCLEAR MILITARISM. The above is why China has declared the islands of the First, Second, + Third Island Chains as part of its strategic <br />"Core Interests", i.e. AREAS IN WHICH CHINA IS WILLING TO RISK WAGING UNILATERAL, MAJOR CONVENTIONAL AND NUCLEAR WAR OVER.<br />Its NOT the Islands, but CHINA'S PERCEPTION OF ITSELF. Forebodingly, NORTH KOREA is well-aware of the above and may try to MILITARILY use it to achieve its own national agendum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-32011284968898108522010-10-05T07:02:48.704+08:002010-10-05T07:02:48.704+08:00There's no doubt that China will become more v...There's no doubt that China will become more vocal about her "claim" to the Ryukyus at some point.<br /><br />The thing about Ma is that if he were really a democrat or a liberal (not in the American sense), or if he were a realist (which is the appeal of the KMT to the Taiwanese electorate), he would be emphasizing the way China has handled the dispute rather than permitting himself to get dragged into this farce.<br /><br />If he were a statesman rather than a mere opportunist--admittedly, it is sometimes difficult to tell the difference--he would be insisting on the stability of the status quo of the East China Sea and the peaceful resolution of disputes in the region.<br /><br />For once, Taiwan had an opportunity to appear the reasonable third-party to an unseemly squabble rather than be painted as a troublemaker, but Ma's first instinct was to take sides. And, the wrong one at that.<br /><br />Somebody from the gov't should have been out every day saying that as a matter of national principle shared by everybody on the island, Taiwan firmly believed in the peaceful resolution of all territorial disputes. It would have improved the image of Taiwan and his administration and avoided inflaming a dangerous situation.<br /><br />Why waste political capital and national prestige so carelessly?John Herodotusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-64601890173616096822010-10-04T17:11:37.098+08:002010-10-04T17:11:37.098+08:00The Sankei Simbun report quoted by the ROC Foreign...The Sankei Simbun report quoted by the ROC Foreign Ministry spokesman James Chang acc to CNA, refers to exercises in November focussing on the Senkakus/Diaoyutai. That's at odds with other reports dating back to August announcing that JMSDF and USN will hold joint exercises in December in the Ryukyus -- which are separated from the S/D islets by the Okinawa Trough. <br /><br />The Jamestown report below by Holmes and Yoshihara says the December manoeuvres will focus on the Ryukyu chain because it is strategic catnip for the PLAN, particularly the islands of Miyako and Ishigaki which control straits giving PLAN access to the Pacific. The PLAN has been sniffing around that area with two rounds of exercises so far this year.<br /><br />It would be a big surprise if the US/Japan manoeuvres have been switched to deal with a contingency involving the S/D islets -- which are strategically unimportant compared with the Ryukyus.<br /><br />Wonder who's the more confused: Sankei Shimbun, James Chang, CNA, or me?<br /><br />http://www.jamestown.org/programs/chinabrief/single/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=36812&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=414&no_cache=1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-13849867683001461432010-10-04T16:18:36.641+08:002010-10-04T16:18:36.641+08:00Ampontan,
The Okinawa issue really needs more pub...Ampontan,<br /><br />The Okinawa issue really needs more publicity, and I intend to give it some.Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-48814453765975847232010-10-04T16:17:56.382+08:002010-10-04T16:17:56.382+08:00How do you then make the conclusion that that it r...<b>How do you then make the conclusion that that it represents a de facto alliance between both countries? It would actually seem to suggest the opposite.</b><br /><br />I said it was a de facto alliance between both governments (actually between both Chinese nationalist parties but never mind that). If the KMT gov't says it won't criticize China because it is part of CHina, and Beijing has no problem with Taiwan's operations in the Senkakus, but both hack on japan, I think that implies tat they are de facto allied against Japan even if there is no signed agreement. What's your analysis?Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-73802852030933057132010-10-04T15:05:41.076+08:002010-10-04T15:05:41.076+08:00.
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The ROC = China stance is bound to make Taiw....<br />.<br />.<br />The ROC = China stance is bound to make Taiwan less credible in the international community.<br /><br />Is that something the KMT wants? I'm guessing it is.<br />.<br />.<br />.skiingkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05381159852660053893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-30146109986554368872010-10-04T14:27:26.009+08:002010-10-04T14:27:26.009+08:00Not just the Okinawans--all of Japan is aware of p...Not just the Okinawans--all of Japan is aware of possible Chinese designs on the Ryukyus, and has been for a while.(Qualification--all of Japan = people who pay attention to foreign affairs and public debate)Ampontanhttp://ampontan.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-2726163925145659652010-10-04T13:08:04.575+08:002010-10-04T13:08:04.575+08:00The report says "not in concert with the Chin...The report says "not in concert with the Chinese". <br /><br />You say "a de facto alliance between the KMT government of Taiwan and Beijing against Japan in the Senkakus"<br /><br />How do you then make the conclusion that that it represents a de facto alliance between both countries? It would actually seem to suggest the opposite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-51741266156272900362010-10-04T08:55:40.096+08:002010-10-04T08:55:40.096+08:00To Governor Ba Ei-kyu:
Fulfill your duties as hea...To Governor Ba Ei-kyu:<br /><br />Fulfill your duties as head of the proxy military government on Japanese Formosa that you really are. Allow for a Formosan only Civil Government to be established as successor to your Chinese colonial administration of Japanese Formosa.<br /><br />Allow the ROC mummy to give up the ghost once and for all. Then the Formosan Civil Governement and Japan will know how to handle the situation between brothers to the best interest of Formosan fishrmen. <br /><br />Japan will be all too happy to oblige her former nationals.jerome in valsnoreply@blogger.com