tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post4630550930259708199..comments2023-10-22T18:25:39.688+08:00Comments on The View from Taiwan: Discourse and Ideology in the Media and the Taiwan Student ProtestsMichael Turtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-65000095484782373512014-03-31T05:37:05.567+08:002014-03-31T05:37:05.567+08:00Thanks Michael, I've already suggested the Com...Thanks Michael, I've already suggested the Commonwealth magazine and will pass on the others you mention. And modesty clearly prevented a mention of your own blog which has some excellent commentary and links.. :)Diallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14783071140803366412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-58867670889362385052014-03-30T18:37:00.572+08:002014-03-30T18:37:00.572+08:00Diall, for the trade pact the only thing I know of...Diall, for the trade pact the only thing I know offhand is this:<br /><a href="http://www.slideshare.net/hungchengtu/ss-24730814" rel="nofollow">NTU Prof analysis</a>.<br /><br />For Taiwan's overall economic situation the editorial page of the commercial times (Chinese) and Commonwealth magazine often have really good articles.<br /><br /><br />Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-63047857009671306982014-03-30T15:57:42.320+08:002014-03-30T15:57:42.320+08:00Michael, I wonder if you could recommend a good an...Michael, I wonder if you could recommend a good analysis of Taiwan's economic situation for one of my students. She has taken part in the student protests and been greatly affected by the whole matter. She is in her early 30s and wishes to get a better handle on the agreement and its context. Any suggestions would be appreciated, especially of a more accessible nature.<br /><br />Thanks.Diallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14783071140803366412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-83836878246997846602014-03-30T02:34:42.192+08:002014-03-30T02:34:42.192+08:00Oh, I'm so touched by the counter demo. Will t...Oh, I'm so touched by the counter demo. Will the KMT staunchly follow the Carnation Revolution model of Portugal ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-8086987778529960472014-03-29T15:37:39.584+08:002014-03-29T15:37:39.584+08:00The China internet monitors are alive and well on ...The China internet monitors are alive and well on the Economist article, a few of them responded to my own comment about how ridiculously biased the whole thing is. <br /><br />One didn't seem to understand the meaning of the word "specious".<br /><br />Jenna Lynn Codyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04032277820150000198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-48411211173621316092014-03-29T13:50:29.458+08:002014-03-29T13:50:29.458+08:00I would seriously consider to subscirbe the econom...I would seriously consider to subscirbe the economist in the future.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03479690931508888478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-78317260609583899942014-03-29T13:48:22.165+08:002014-03-29T13:48:22.165+08:00Question. I am totally not clear from news coverag...Question. I am totally not clear from news coverage exactly what the "meet with Ma" status is with the students. I hear "he invited the leaders to talk with him", I hear "he offered to go to the legislative yuan but the students rebuffed him", I hear 'he refuses to even speak to them", I hear "the students' demands keep changing".<br /><br />Which of these is actually true?Jenna Lynn Codyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04032277820150000198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-25954053984219136132014-03-29T04:59:17.996+08:002014-03-29T04:59:17.996+08:00Thx for the article, Michael.
Thx for the article, Michael. <br />Taiwan Echohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17018124148446093746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-47332640416065205072014-03-29T01:21:51.530+08:002014-03-29T01:21:51.530+08:00Um er cough cough ... Shimonoseki cough... Sorry.....Um er cough cough ... Shimonoseki cough... Sorry... For a second there I was seized by a coughing fit. What was That all about?Tommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13552370490869601403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-77465488888870956432014-03-28T23:34:43.810+08:002014-03-28T23:34:43.810+08:00Great piece again. I find the Economist to be heav...Great piece again. I find the Economist to be heavily bound by the "China double threat" so the articles are unsurprisingly biased. Double threat being: 1) I am a rising power, I am the future savior of the consumption world so you must hope I succeed or you will all suffer and 2) if you don't say nice things about my party, you won't be invited back er given visas. <br /><br />It's saddening to see how much coercion the world accepts as long as the money is there. It's reality but since when was a communist country more of a friend than a democratic one? Oh, I forgot. 1.3billion consumers! Screw everything else. We have cars and KFC to sell. Unless Taiwan wants some apache helis. <br /><br />Hey where are the China internet monitors? Taking day off? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-27393696554454764732014-03-28T23:19:55.542+08:002014-03-28T23:19:55.542+08:00Michael Turton makes a comment about treaties bein...Michael Turton makes a comment about treaties being broken when countries change government (like Italy leaving the Axis in WWII). I find this an interesting topic. I've often wondered why we should expect a newly democratic country to pay back loans made by a previous corrupt regime. If my country were being run by someone like Mugabe and I managed to overthrow him and becomme the first democratically elected leader - I would be sorely tempted to tell any creditors that the deals they made were with Mugabe, the leader of a criminal organization that terrorized the people rather than a legitimate (because democratic) leader of a country. If they want their money back they should go to Mugabe, not to his victims.<br /><br />Morally that seems right. Of course from the practical view the snag is that such an attitude from emerging democracies would make it harder for them to secure external support. Readinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-88608545257454391662014-03-28T23:17:37.372+08:002014-03-28T23:17:37.372+08:00This Banyan article is the stupidest piece of opin...This Banyan article is the stupidest piece of opinion BS passed off as objective journalism I've ever seen.<br /><br />I mean...wow.<br /><br />I want to say more but I am literally just astounded by the stupidity.Jenna Lynn Codyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04032277820150000198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-24173604728755349922014-03-28T23:13:09.470+08:002014-03-28T23:13:09.470+08:00It is a simple fact of life that every country doi...It is a simple fact of life that every country doing business with democracies understands that the mere signing of a treaty means very little until it is ratified. This isn't even a new concept that started with democracies. In the old days when travel was long there was always the chance that when the ambassador finished traveling for weeks or months to bring back a treaty to the king, the king would reject it.<br /><br />Anyone making arguments that not ratifying the treaty is the same as not keeping a promise is clearly not interested in a rational discussion but is instead simply trying to do whatever it takes to get their way.<br /><br />(This reminds me of the recent arguments in America that such-and-such a law is "settled law" and thus it would somehow be evil to repeal it. Yes this is a Taiwan blog, but I live in America so even as I follow Taiwan politics American politics are never far from my mind.)Readinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-49727298528157077162014-03-28T23:06:32.583+08:002014-03-28T23:06:32.583+08:00Actually, it would be better if you stopped using ...Actually, it would be better if you stopped using "left" and "right" in regard to Taiwan. Ma may fit the European definition of "the right" but neither party in Taiwan really fits with the "the right" as it is constituted in America. There is no free-market free-association government-should-treat-everyone-equally-regardless-of-race keep-a-strong-military wing in Taiwanese politics that I can see.Readinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-27113780345008296642014-03-28T23:02:45.683+08:002014-03-28T23:02:45.683+08:00It was rather jarring when you suddenly switched f...It was rather jarring when you suddenly switched form talking about leftists to "fierce defenders of the people".<br /><br />To be fair though, the conservative groups that usually can be called the true "defenders of the people" have been pretty quiet on the Taiwanese situation as well.Readinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-65877970007601911642014-03-28T22:47:57.443+08:002014-03-28T22:47:57.443+08:00I'm interesting with the saying that you menti...<b>I'm interesting with the saying that you mentioned in the last paragraph. Why China's rising power is making Taiwan being swallowed less probable? Have you ever mentioned in the previous articles?</b><br /><br />No. I want to save it for a longer piece.<br /><br />MichaelMichael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-90942907630292575482014-03-28T22:46:25.920+08:002014-03-28T22:46:25.920+08:00"'It's something the US can get away ..."'It's something the US can get away with, other countries wouldn't be able to benefit from international frameworks they haven't agreed to be bound to.""<br /><br />Yeah, but try that with any country, randomly pick the diplomatic history of some lesser power.. Treaties are regularly broken, modified, renegotiated, ignored, and not just by the US.<br /><br />MichaelMichael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-63036171942039494502014-03-28T21:52:57.234+08:002014-03-28T21:52:57.234+08:00I'm interesting with the saying that you menti...I'm interesting with the saying that you mentioned in the last paragraph. Why China's rising power is making Taiwan being swallowed less probable? Have you ever mentioned in the previous articles?Daniel from Tainannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-1826342876938851602014-03-28T21:31:00.491+08:002014-03-28T21:31:00.491+08:00I don't think non-ratification of treaties by ...I don't think non-ratification of treaties by the US is a good example, though. It's something the US can get away with, other countries wouldn't be able to benefit from international frameworks they haven't agreed to be bound to. <br /><br />That said: it's part of the legislature's job to ratify or reject treaties. They have to reject agreements which do not benefit their country. Dictatorships might have problems understanding this but other countries don't.StefanMuchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13041616398172997165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-69810212586266456102014-03-28T20:32:38.492+08:002014-03-28T20:32:38.492+08:00With regard to the Spangler piece: Both KMT & ...With regard to the Spangler piece: Both KMT & CCP don't see their relations as "international" relations between to "countries", at all. WTO is not involved as well.<br />Why should other countries care (tradewise) if and how Taiwan deals with China on a rather domestic level? Moreover the more Taiwan is involved with China economically the more difficult it will be to "deepen economic ties" with other countries without China's consent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com