tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post4475558582224433070..comments2023-10-22T18:25:39.688+08:00Comments on The View from Taiwan: US Intel Does the China KowtowMichael Turtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-27074563290481425932010-01-22T16:40:33.667+08:002010-01-22T16:40:33.667+08:00Thomas said, "Also of concern is the selectio...Thomas said, "Also of concern is the selection of genuinely naive Westerners who really think that the Chinese authorities have the interests of the rest of the world in mind."<br /><br />I'll go you one better. I'll bet you it's Western business and political leaders who think they can handle China and not let things get out of control--like those otherwise intelligent people who reply to Nigerian banking offers in their email knowing it's a scam, but thinking they can out-scam the scammers.Marcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-35283206983309653302010-01-22T09:40:20.687+08:002010-01-22T09:40:20.687+08:00"Does anyone honestly believe the US intellig..."Does anyone honestly believe the US intelligence community is that naïve?"<br /><br />Some may be. But of greater concern is the patchwork of politicians, businessmen and other interests who bend over backwards to make concessions to the Chinese so that they can improve the business environment. <br /><br />Also of concern is the selection of genuinely naive Westerners who really think that the Chinese authorities have the interests of the rest of the world in mind. Yes, there are many people like that out there, or need I cite the masses who were mislead by Red Star Over China decades ago and who continue to be blinded by the legions of pulp "China Dazzle" books on the bookstore shelves.<br /><br />In sum, these groups can exert pressure on the intelligence community and on the military as well. <br /><br />Moreover, even if the intelligence community has not downgraded its intelligence gathering in fact, the formal announcement that it has done so can do damage by lowering the guard of government bureaus, enterprises, individuals and NGOs who read the formal announcement.Tommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13552370490869601403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-54889044399979376912010-01-22T09:04:00.128+08:002010-01-22T09:04:00.128+08:00I agree that spying on China is wasteful and count...I agree that spying on China is wasteful and counter-productive. Just nuke the fuckers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-44528492398498669252010-01-22T02:12:49.657+08:002010-01-22T02:12:49.657+08:00Does anyone honestly believe the US intelligence c...Does anyone honestly believe the US intelligence community is that naïve? I have no doubt that internally they are still doing clandestine spying operations against China. If they aren't then the world is in deep shit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-67538733374328828852010-01-21T23:53:39.788+08:002010-01-21T23:53:39.788+08:00How about one day?<a href="http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00001862.html" rel="nofollow">How about one day?</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-18534214539455618992010-01-21T22:02:50.574+08:002010-01-21T22:02:50.574+08:00And the sad part is that they keep imagining that ...And the sad part is that they keep imagining that they can make up the lost ground by making still more concessions....Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-17413851591207217732010-01-21T20:16:31.861+08:002010-01-21T20:16:31.861+08:00Mark,
Last night, I expalained the concepts of &q...Mark,<br /><br />Last night, I expalained the concepts of "directly proportional relationship" and "inversely proportional relationship" to my daughter for her math homework. I think to answer your question precisely would be it is an "inversely proportional relationship" based on the past experience. I'm surprised that most of the world still doesn't come to understand how China is gaining more and more ground while we are making more and more concession.BITnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-75664209260966917202010-01-21T16:45:22.529+08:002010-01-21T16:45:22.529+08:00And as part of the reciprocal goodwill gesture Chi...And as part of the reciprocal goodwill gesture China will also significantly reduce its espionage efforts against the US.............. Right???Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00948724015993575244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-26202255908019274382010-01-21T15:49:35.546+08:002010-01-21T15:49:35.546+08:00Questions:
Are there any readers out there with a...Questions:<br /><br />Are there any readers out there with a little more inside info on the various intel agencies in the US?<br /><br />How many levels are there?<br /><br />What intel gathering is not done at Level 2 that is done at Level 1?<br /><br />Is Level 2 akin the what comedian John Cleese once referred to as the "Axis of Somewhat Evil" or the "Axis of Occasionally Evil"?Marcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-32163076187124585092010-01-21T13:42:21.062+08:002010-01-21T13:42:21.062+08:00I am really beginning to think that Hillary Clinto...I am really beginning to think that Hillary Clinton would have made a much much better and more effective President! Or even McCain. Why were so many of us so blind?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15907060405795620941noreply@blogger.com