tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post4103114604695509893..comments2023-10-22T18:25:39.688+08:00Comments on The View from Taiwan: Commentary on Ma from here and thereMichael Turtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-60621169701566564502011-02-12T15:17:59.823+08:002011-02-12T15:17:59.823+08:00Michael:" but KMT politicians have to pretend...Michael:<b>" but KMT politicians have to pretend they actually support Taiwan. Tougher position to operate from, because in Taiwan's overwhelmingly pro-Taiwan electorate you can't pretend on the issue of whether you support Taiwan."</b><br /><br />It would be even more difficult when the election approaching. China already recognized the popularity of Tsai after the 5-city election, which supposedly would force them to prepare for the possibility of Ma being replaced by Tsai in 2012. In that case, it would mean that they have very little time to make use of Ma for the annexation, which, logically, would be followed by a much harsher squeezing on Ma before the 2012 election. Ma would force much stronger conflicting pushes: push from China for speedy annexation which could piss off voters in Taiwan, and push from voters to stand for Taiwan's value which would anger Beijing.Taiwan Echohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17018124148446093746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-27149410375270310282011-02-12T14:52:23.152+08:002011-02-12T14:52:23.152+08:00OzSoapbox: "Why aren't the government wor...OzSoapbox: "Why aren't the government worried about stabilising my freaking beef noodle prices first!?"<br /><br />China didn't give that instruction.<br /><br />But even if China does, the gov doesn't know how to.Taiwan Echohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17018124148446093746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-45226100666338145522011-02-12T12:55:54.348+08:002011-02-12T12:55:54.348+08:00My 2 cents here, or should I say my 2 NT$-
many En...My 2 cents here, or should I say my 2 NT$-<br />many English news articles, especially those written by Taiwan-based writers, describe China as <i>mainland</i> China. Also, some business articles decribe Taiwan and China as the "greater China region." <br /><br />There've been several times when instead of saying "dalu" to refer to China when speaking to Taiwanese, I've used "zhongguo," and I've been corrected [by the other person saying "dalu"]. <br />I'd say there's still a significant amount of identification with China.<br /><br />CPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-11553529086167728452011-02-11T17:04:46.366+08:002011-02-11T17:04:46.366+08:00But Dix, if we don't make it complicated, what...But Dix, if we don't make it complicated, what will we write about?Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-3301337740831833872011-02-11T16:39:59.200+08:002011-02-11T16:39:59.200+08:00Anon,
Those foreigners are making it more complica...Anon,<br />Those foreigners are making it more complicated than necessary. It's much simpler: Ma is a moron.Dixteelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05689510846926854542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-91177379039532244202011-02-11T15:07:41.110+08:002011-02-11T15:07:41.110+08:00I have heard a lot of foreigners from many countri...I have heard a lot of foreigners from many countries scoff at this kind of political posturing as Quixotic and delusional in the pretense of maintaining a claim to China.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-90399226710942206652011-02-11T14:23:48.570+08:002011-02-11T14:23:48.570+08:00Coming from overseas it's quite natural to ref...Coming from overseas it's quite natural to refer to China as China and Taiwan as Taiwan. <br /><br />Anyone from Taiwan who ventures off overseas is going to have people wondering what they are talking about if they refer to China as the mainland.<br /><br />The rest of the world uses 'China' and 'Taiwan' and in the greater global scheme of things, squabbling about what to refer to China as seems stupidly petty.<br /><br />Why aren't the government worried about stabilising my freaking beef noodle prices first!?OzSoapboxhttp://ozsoapbox.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-65380912884627433482011-02-11T11:26:07.496+08:002011-02-11T11:26:07.496+08:00The INPR report meshes with my thoughts. I think ...The INPR report meshes with my thoughts. I think maintaining the so-called status quo increasingly has the effect of keeping Taiwan in a political coma. And you know, when you're in a coma, anyone can mess around with you!Marcnoreply@blogger.com