tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post2103528559791001052..comments2023-10-22T18:25:39.688+08:00Comments on The View from Taiwan: Economist at it againMichael Turtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-68387783025031514612014-05-05T13:33:26.880+08:002014-05-05T13:33:26.880+08:00Deaths per TWh
Compared to other energy sources, ...<a href="http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/03/deaths-per-twh-by-energy-source.html" rel="nofollow">Deaths per TWh</a><br /><br />Compared to other energy sources, coal is by far the deadliest. Burning coal leads to harmful pollution and mining coal leads to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coal_mining_accidents_in_China" rel="nofollow">unfortunate accidents</a>.globOfNeuronsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-24319738494649661212014-05-04T23:22:48.934+08:002014-05-04T23:22:48.934+08:00but unless you're a climate change denier
He...<b>but unless you're a climate change denier </b><br /><br />He is. Don't go there. Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-44802144088695001042014-05-04T22:13:47.210+08:002014-05-04T22:13:47.210+08:00Coal plants are bad for people - pretty much all f...Coal plants are bad for people - pretty much all fossil fuel energy spews all sorts of nasty crap into the air, sea and sky, which screws up the environment. Then we get polluted water, polluted land, illness and long-term, we get climate change, which does have the potential to kill people (many scientists say it already has). <br /><br />So yes, "murderous coal plants" may be a bit of rhetoric, but unless you're a climate change denier and don't think pollution exists, it isn't really inaccurate.Jenna Lynn Codyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04032277820150000198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-18162666926324271822014-05-04T16:12:31.890+08:002014-05-04T16:12:31.890+08:00Michael, I know a research who's looking into ...Michael, I know a research who's looking into a big jump in cancer deaths in Chiayi b/c of heavy metal pollution, so there certainly must be stats about pollution-related illnesses around the coal-fired plantsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-83835984268167289752014-05-04T14:47:37.777+08:002014-05-04T14:47:37.777+08:00"The point is they will make handy whipping b...<i>"The point is they will make handy whipping boys."</i><br /><br />I don't think so; few people will believe the government if they blame electricity price rises on the nuke protesters particularly because the relative importance of the 4th nuke's would-have-been contribution to electricity supply will be contradicted by their own data. <br /><br /><i>"But when you dump shit like mercury into the atmosphere and ocean, you get dead people."</i><br /><br />Yes, but by the same logic you can say that when you raise the costs of electricity, you get dead people too. <br /><br />Besides, mercury emissions can be reduced through conventional flue gas treatment systems that we already have (e.g. in Taichung power plant) as well as new tech (e.g. fabric filters) specifically for removing mercury.Mike Faganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08745281285031316740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-38689492521457332252014-05-04T13:19:39.001+08:002014-05-04T13:19:39.001+08:00Bluesplained: "The KMT has a policy and becau...<b>Bluesplained: "The KMT has a policy and because the KMT has it, it is the right policy because it is the policy. Everybody agrees except troublemakers."</b><br /><br />Well put. The Economist is kind of an outlier among conservative mag in its preference for the pro-China, anti-democracy party in Taiwan. The others tend to be more supportive of the DPP and more skeptical of China. It's rather strange.Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-29872710273390769812014-05-04T13:16:53.009+08:002014-05-04T13:16:53.009+08:00his will backfire though, because the 4th nuke wou...<b>his will backfire though, because the 4th nuke would not have drastically improved Taiwan's electricity supply all by itself. As I said, it would have added only about 6% (more or less) to the overall supply.</b><br /><br />The point is they will make handy whipping boys.<br /><br /><b>How many people have been "murdered" by Taiwan's coal-fired power plants in the last year?</b><br /><br />No idea, haven't looked up exact stats. But when you dump shit like mercury into the atmosphere and ocean, you get dead people. Exact amount is debatable, but if you type "coal plants deaths" in Google you can get some numbers. We also get another cohort of deaths from China's coal plants.<br /><br />MichaelMichael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-12903449774108915042014-05-04T11:47:40.260+08:002014-05-04T11:47:40.260+08:00Bluesplained: "The KMT has a policy and becau...Bluesplained: "The KMT has a policy and because the KMT has it, it is the right policy because it is the policy. Everybody agrees except troublemakers."Jenna Lynn Codyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04032277820150000198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-88321688006021934222014-05-04T11:18:01.456+08:002014-05-04T11:18:01.456+08:00"Then when electricity prices go up as they m...<i>"Then when electricity prices go up as they must because they are far too low, the government can blame the anti-nuke types as well. "</i><br /><br />This will backfire though, because the 4th nuke would not have drastically improved Taiwan's electricity supply all by itself. As I said, it would have added only about 6% (more or less) to the overall supply. <br /><br /><i>"Next step: shutting down our absurd, murderous coal plants..."</i><br /><br />How many people have been "murdered" by Taiwan's coal-fired power plants in the last year?Mike Faganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08745281285031316740noreply@blogger.com