tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post1837738909269075607..comments2023-10-22T18:25:39.688+08:00Comments on The View from Taiwan: Liberty Times Ugly New Pattern?Michael Turtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-89864953152333643182010-03-29T01:03:17.454+08:002010-03-29T01:03:17.454+08:00Anonymous: "Look how helpless the Taipei Time...Anonymous: "Look how helpless the Taipei Times is. It's a complete backwater with a website that takes 30 seconds to load sometimes. This is 2010. They have no community features even though Taiwan expats are very loyal readers and have very specific needs they pay a lot for."<br /><br />Anonymous, you seem to be confusing form and content. The Taipei Times website may be annoying, but - and here's the important part - it actually <i>contains</i> something. This immediately distinguishes it from all the other rags on the island, such as Apple Daily, which you seem to semi-admire.<br /><br />I read the Taipei Times daily while in Taiwan, and was always impressed by the quality of its articles. Now back in Canada, I only continue to marvel how a newspaper in such a small market could be so good. The newspapers here in Canada could learn a lesson or two from the Taipei Times.Brian Schacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-79766988449027233992010-03-28T23:16:08.056+08:002010-03-28T23:16:08.056+08:00Doh! Sorry, I meant also, not always.Doh! Sorry, I meant also, not always.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15907060405795620941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-72526608844510529302010-03-28T13:57:03.958+08:002010-03-28T13:57:03.958+08:00@J._Michael That's great to hear. Someone must...@J._Michael That's great to hear. Someone must be listening to people like me, who launch annoyed missives about TT on Twitter. I always put a discussion board topic on their Facebook fan page.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15907060405795620941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-45768491800614453002010-03-28T12:21:06.132+08:002010-03-28T12:21:06.132+08:00Sorry, I just can't get worked up about what t...Sorry, I just can't get worked up about what the Liberty Times gets right, or what the China Post doesn't. What the media produces in Taiwan, as in most of the world, is an entertainment product sold to the gullible masses.<br /><br />What's interesting to consider is how information ("news" and commentary) is shaped and transformed, rather than how accurate or truthful it is, and what effect this has on the masses.Marcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-75711370760160275602010-03-28T10:55:28.684+08:002010-03-28T10:55:28.684+08:00Anon:
"Look how helpless the Taipei Times is...Anon:<br /><br />"Look how helpless the Taipei Times is. It's a complete backwater with a website that takes 30 seconds to load sometimes. This is 2010."<br /><br />You didn't hear it from me, but that's about to change. At long last.J. Michael Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04793745420777048984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-9306188100769432232010-03-28T08:53:41.980+08:002010-03-28T08:53:41.980+08:00I don't know if you can say it's an ugly n...I don't know if you can say it's an ugly <b>new</b> pattern - pretty much all of the media here reports what it wants, regardless of the accuracy. Just in the English-language sphere, the TT and TN are both riddled with errors, and the less said about CP the better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-74677823734850801452010-03-28T03:35:42.548+08:002010-03-28T03:35:42.548+08:00The Liberty Times is a clueless organization livin...The Liberty Times is a clueless organization living off the ideological blindness of United Daily News and China Times. People that can't stomach Apple Daily and can't stand the Blue shills default to Liberty Times.<br /><br />Look how helpless the Taipei Times is. It's a complete backwater with a website that takes 30 seconds to load sometimes. This is 2010. They have no community features even though Taiwan expats are very loyal readers and have very specific needs they pay a lot for.<br /><br />The only semi-technologically advanced organization is UDN, but since they bleed so much money, even that is limited.<br /><br />Apple Daily is semi-interesting now because with their animations with English voice overs, they actually have an international export! (Yes really, it really looks like it has potential, esp with US cable news or the Youtube crowd).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-51556551981542319182010-03-28T00:51:49.297+08:002010-03-28T00:51:49.297+08:00Here is what I think happens:
Taiwanese often res...Here is what I think happens:<br /><br />Taiwanese often respect highly foreign experts. Therefore, often, newspaper etc pays close attention to what they said about Taiwan.<br /><br />But similarly to foreigners don't understand Taiwan, Taiwan doesn't understand foreigners neither. Therefore, they don't know that some foreign experts actually have no significant insight on Taiwan. In fact, a lot of them are like Rigger, who had wrong assumptions and therefore had trouble interpreting current events.<br /><br />These experts' puzzlement become local media's "misunderstanding." Because local media actually has a clearer picture, but at the same time they assume the experts' opinions are correct. It's like a blind person leading a group of people that can see. These create great contradiction, which makes local newspaper trying to overinterprete the report that is in another language. This leads to inaccurate translation and interpretation.<br /><br />Also, often the Taiwanese newspaper paid little attention to the foreign experts' background etc. Maybe the so called experts have big business going on in China, and these newspaper still highlight what the person said as insightful for Taiwan without questions.<br /><br />However, all these are just wrong. What the local media should do is just report whatever is said as is. Let the population of Taiwan be the judgge, and see how idiotic or insightful some of these so called experts really are. It's good for Taiwanese to understand that a lot of influential people outside of Taiwan don't have a damn clue about what is going on. And if necessary, write an editorial and ripp those fake experts apart. By doing so, they can help increase the understanding between Taiwan and the outside world.<br /><br />Also for pan gree newspaper, they have to realize that not all, but a lot of these so called Taiwan experts are not really Taiwan experts and are pro-China and pro-KMT in their thinking. KMT didn't do those global propaganda in the past 40 years for nothing.Dixteelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05689510846926854542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10698887.post-42871416403728722812010-03-28T00:31:47.112+08:002010-03-28T00:31:47.112+08:00Business is Business.
Politics is Politics.
The B...Business is Business.<br />Politics is Politics.<br /><br />The Business is CLSA's to lose.<br />The Politics is KMT's to lose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com